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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Personally, I think everyone has cheated in univeristy....whether intentionally or not.

Wrong. All of our papers have to be submitted to Turnitin and have to be within a certain range of cited material. You'd have to be either really fucking stupid, or have King Kong balls to try and copy someone else's shit and pass it off as your own.

no way in freakin hell would I cheat

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Thing is, cheating is so commonplace in the world. Businesses cheat anywhere they can (and often get caught doing so), the government cheats all the fucking time, etc etc. I know it doesn't exactly make it right, but isn't our sense of right/wrong dictated by how society behaves anyway?

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I know it doesn't exactly make it right, but isn't our sense of right/wrong dictated by how society behaves anyway?

Ugh, do you realize how spineless this sounds?

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Originally posted by jennypie Turnitin

Should be a voluntary option. I don't like how the university forces you to give up your paper for them to store it in their database. I'm highly suspicious that they don't in turn sell the essays they collect to those sites that sell essays to students. But most importantly, I don't like the idea that my work is being held by a company I didn't want to hold it.

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Originally posted by jennypie Ugh, do you realize how spineless this sounds?

Spineless? All of what you know about how to behave in society you learn from observing the behaviour in that society. It's just as spineless as learning to say, "thank you".

Edit: better example is: we all know lying is wrong, yet no one tries to live up to the ideal of absolutely never lying because we've all learned that society accepts white lies.

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Originally posted by yankeeBaby no way in freakin hell would I cheat

based on your cheating on loved ones theory.

You would first mutually agree to see other peoples answers and then talk about it with him after the exam.

LOL

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Edit: better example is: we all know lying is wrong, yet no one tries to live up to the ideal of absolutely never lying because we've all learned that society accepts white lies.

So? To me that's like saying "Well Bill jumped off a bridge, so I'm going to as well." Can people not think for themselves? (Rhetorical question, it's obvious that the majority cannot). I think your example sounds like a copout.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Should be a voluntary option. I don't like how the university forces you to give up your paper for them to store it in their database. I'm highly suspicious that they don't in turn sell the essays they collect to those sites that sell essays to students. But most importantly, I don't like the idea that my work is being held by a company I didn't want to hold it.

Goddamn that's some Big Brother shit right there, you paranoid freak!

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Actually I'm not an exception at all, b/c I got caught cheating, in turn failed, and in turn got the grade I deserved.

your logic is flawless

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur . c) Half the time we're allowed using cheat sheets anyway. (I think sometimes profs are sadistic with that because they'll allow cheat sheets for a course where it's pointless to put anything on the cheat sheet unless you put down the entire OpenGL API. d) The other time, the exam tests your thinking ability and not stuff you can put down on paper. I remember one time bringing in a full typed page of cheat notes for an exam, and never having to use it because all the stuff i put on it I didn't need/already knew.

lol this is EXACTLY what I was refering to when it comes to cheating in Computer Science

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Originally posted by jennypie So? To me that's like saying "Well Bill jumped off a bridge, so I'm going to as well." Can people not think for themselves? (Rhetorical question, it's obvious that the majority cannot). I think your example sounds like a copout.

Well they do say that most of the thoughts that people have are just re-worded versions of other people's thoughts.

(Ironically enough, this is someone else's quote that I re-worded cause I can't remember exactly how it goes)

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Originally posted by jennypie Goddamn that's some Big Brother shit right there, you paranoid freak!

Hardly Big Brother, just cynical.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Hardly Big Brother, just cynical.

You know who else was a cynic? HITLER.