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PBR Recordings
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Registered: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

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I think people are more upset at the fact that not only is it a bad review, but it trashes the CD without justification. Also it's obvious that the CD never had a chance because it's clear that the reviewer has a disdain for the genre in the first place. The stereotypes were also uncalled for. If people like flipside, M1 etc were ripping him apart because he didnt like the CD id understand why it wouldnt be taken so well. But the real problem here is that it's a badly written review.


MY POINT EXACTLY! GOOD POST!


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Registered: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by bas
Proper reviews are subjective, no one has to list pros and cons of anything, especially in a cd like this where there are no pros. And honestly, when the two best tracks come from Deadmau5 and Addy...you know your cd is bound to fail. Why is are you surprised?





you do realize that multiple artists on that CD have had multiple tracks that were number one in the world or at least top 10 hits. Do you even follow dance music? lol

That being said, I haven't listened to the CD.. in fact with the exeption of the flipside track i don't even know what specific tracks are on it. But I still know who the movers and shakers are who's making music that's relevant.

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iant56
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Originally posted by activate
you do realize that multiple artists on that CD have had multiple tracks that were number one on Beatport or at least top 10 hits on Beatport.



fixed.


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But I still know who the movers and shakers are who's making music that's relevant.


relevant to noobs and douchebags

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tobywan
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As other have mentioned, not so much what was said but rather the manner that it was said. Which was shite, considering that he's writing a 'professional' CD review in a large, weekly publication.

I'd fire whoever hired this guy in the first place.

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Originally posted by iant56
fixed.




beatport by FAR dominates as far as dance music sales go. pretty safe to say that if you're # 1 on beatport, you're # 1 in the world.

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Mr. Silva
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Originally posted by bas
Proper reviews are subjective, no one has to list pros and cons of anything, especially in a cd like this where there are no pros. And honestly, when the two best tracks come from Deadmau5 and Addy...you know your cd is bound to fail. Why is are you surprised?

So some shitty dj wrote a review about your shitty compilation cd full of cheap music. For fucks sake that tracklist reads like a who's who of douchebags in club land. If you're not going to be able to take some heat from critics, you should really stay out of the entertainment industry and stick to being a barista at Starbuck's. Of course if you do that you'll leave yourself open to yuppies complaining that you burned the milk in their latte


you really are an idiot. how can you sit in your parents basement and say that having a song from Deadmau5 is bound to make the cd fail? are you even aware that Deadmau5 tours the world playing gigs while you sit at home and complain about life?

douchbags in clubland? buddy... you need to check yourself. these people are making waves around the globe and having some of the biggest dj's play their music but to you they're douchbags? perhaps if they were coked-up at some club downtown rushing to some garbage electro they'd be less of a douch?

you are a fool. a simple minded fool. there is a difference between being able to take heat from a critic who writes something meaningful as opposed to some hack who writes nothing remotely close to a proper review.

complete tool.

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garbage electro





Isn't that majority of what's on this CD?

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quote:
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beatport by FAR dominates as far as dance music sales go. pretty safe to say that if you're # 1 on beatport, you're # 1 in the world.


you've just opened a whole new can of worms with this statement...

(and I only mildly agree with you lol)


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And honestly, when the two best tracks come from Deadmau5 and Addy...you know your cd is bound to fail.


any credibility you had (very little) just went out the window

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Why is are you surprised?


haha fail


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Haha ok, let's start over. I forgot that most of you are probably French-Canadian or some other bastardized civilization so I'll take it slowly for the ESL students here.

In the English language a lot of words have multiple definitions (shocking right?). "Pro" being one of them, let's check a dictionary

quote:
pro
–adverb
1. in favor of a proposition, opinion, etc.
–noun
2. a proponent of an issue; a person who upholds the affirmative in a debate.
3. an argument, consideration, vote, etc., for something.

pro - adjective, noun, plural pros. Informal.
–adjective
1. professional.
–noun
2. professional.
3. the pros, the professional athletic leagues, as of football, baseball, or basketball: He's sure to be signed by the pros.


When it's being used in the phrase "pros and cons" try to guess which definition it is

In my earlier post I was being generous in saying that the only two pluses (pros remember?) were the Addy and Deadmau5 tracks, truth is I didn't even bother listening to them. I can just tell. Deadmau5 is a hack. I know he's one of those locals that made it big and you're all very proud of him, but let's face facts here...he made maybe one or two good tracks, Faxing Berlin got played by everyone and their mother and he blew up. Then he started to become a track making factory. Everything he's released in the past few months sounds exactly the same. Almost as if someone over at Native Instruments decided to make a Deadmau5ify plugin for Logic.

Now to the Beatport argument (my favorite one). That is in no way, shape or form relevant to dance music whatsoever. Just because someone's track made it to the Beatport top 10 doesn't mean shit. It means that a lot of people are willing to buy the newest, trendiest, poppiest (?) sounding house/trance/whatever they possibly can to be cool. They want gigs, they want to be popular and instead of doing it by their own merit they're buying top 10 tracks at Beatport. Sometimes a few good tracks make their way to the top 10, but again why would anyone want ot buy them? That just means that every bedroom dj and every club kid that saw Sasha while rolling their face off decided to get Ableton and now thinks they're a dj, are out there buying tracks. They're out there trying to dictate the scene and it's pathetic.

So what's the result? A CD like this. Generic, bland and trendy sounding house that people (like most of you in this thread) are willing to clamor over and drop $50 at the door of some super club to see someone like a Deadmau5 or like a Dubfire or like a Cedric Gervais when it's completely unwarranted. The guy that criticized this cd didn't like it, deal with it. Your music sucks Toronto.

Mr. Silva you're absolutely right, I take back my "who's who of douchebags in clubland" because outside of Deadmau5, Hatrias and MV these people probably haven't left Canada. My bad.

And me in my parent's basement, good one. That always makes the rounds...next one should be something along the lines of "let's see you do better".


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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Scarborough, Ontario

English lessons and cockfights here.

bottom line is that review is a failure; not because I agree or disagree with what he said - but because it was overtly opinionated, short but not concise and less about his music and more about Bimms failed perceptions of the songs.

Just really weak.

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