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Halcyon+On+On
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Authoritative power is there to be abused, it is in its very nature - and ours - as the very notion of power is an exertion of ones heirarchical standing to exploit the sovereignty of others by means of the circumvention of basic, enforceable policies which apply to the citizenry that is being policed. In short, it is a cop's job to enforce the law, most often by breaking it, himself. It's why police can pursue you at 90mph if you're speeding or beat the shit out of you without getting in trouble - this exemption, this freedom, is power and it would seem an empty form of deterrence through intimidation were it never displayed. My point is, when you grant a degree of power to any agenda, expect that power to be used and abused.

Where authority most often oversteps its power lies in the very definition of "crime" in the first place. When an authority outlaws a certain action or motion and assigns enforceable consequence as an official reaction, a "crime" has been defined - quite literally, crime has been created. The nature of crime being to transmit behavioural patterns throughout culture, most often in an effort to curb violence, positions enforcement authorities to, as with any social agenda, wage an ideological war. The difference being the degree of violent power an authority allows itself. At times when personal liberties are considered shameful, when taboos are numerous and domineering, when many actions that individuals take granted the whims of their social setting are considered "criminal", you are going to see more enforcement, more violence, more abuse of power, and more cops.

Authority is a mostly (unfortunately) necessary and inevitable evil. People are seemingly programmed to be social creatures that create complex Gods and Devils to rule themselves. To extrapolate this idea, one that has already been introduced in this thread, military and war operate under exceedingly similar conditions. When you give any cause the power to achieve its goals, you can expect that power to be exerted until there no longer exists any opposition or until another agenda conflicts with it - its as though authority has its own inertia, and with enough leniency, enough freedom, it can become an unstoppable force for change - for better or for worse.


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Magnetonium
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Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada


Its not just the USA. UK is on par with police violence as well. Recall the Brazilian man who was savagely murdered by the London police after the subway attacks in '05?

Recently, the UK police attacked and killed a bystander who was not part of the G20 protests, and then lied about his cause of death ... Friendly police?

http://www.thespec.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/550558

quote:

Two autopsies, two results

Abdominal bleeding, not heart attack, killed man at G20
April 18, 2009
Sarah Lyall
New York Times News Service
LONDON (Apr 18, 2009)

The newspaper vendor who died after being struck by a police officer during the Group of 20 summit meeting earlier this month was killed by abdominal bleeding and not by a heart attack, according to an independent autopsy whose conclusions were released yesterday.

This flatly contradicts earlier assertions by the police, who maintained newspaper vendor Ian Tomlinson died of a heart attack. It also opens the door for possible manslaughter charges against the officer who attacked Tomlinson, pushing him and striking him from behind with a baton, shortly before he collapsed.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating the incident, said that because of the new autopsy, the officer in question had been "interviewed under caution for the offence of manslaughter." That means the unnamed officer has been formally interrogated, but not charged with a crime.

Tomlinson died April 1 in London's financial district during protests against the G20 meetings. He was trying to walk home from work and was not part of the protests.

The police originally claimed that they had no contact with Tomlinson other than to offer him assistance and put him in an ambulance after he collapsed. But video footage provided by members of the public to the Guardian and other news outlets proved that was untrue.

Tomlinson, the footage showed, had been struck from behind and pushed roughly to the ground as he tried to walk away from an officer in riot gear. He then got up unsteadily and began walking again, only to collapse soon afterward.

The original autopsy was conducted by Dr. Freddy Patel, a pathologist assigned to the case by the Home Office. Patel found blood in Tomlinson's abdomen, but also said that his liver and heart were diseased and that the cause of death had been hardening of the coronary artery disease.

Following the revelation of the new video evidence, the complaints commission then ordered a second autopsy, by Dr. Nat Cary, a pathologist who is part of the Forensic Pathology Services and who usually deals with suspicious deaths, be carried out.

"Dr. Cary's opinion is that the cause of death was abdominal hemorrhage," a statement issued by the City of London Coroners Court said. "Dr. Cary accepts that there is evidence of coronary atherosclerosis, but states that in his opinion its nature and extent is unlikely to have contributed to the cause of death."

Cary added that he did not know what had caused the abdominal bleeding.

The family said it had been misled by the police at every turn.

"First we were told that there had been no contact with the police, then were told that he died of a heart attack; now we know that he was violently assaulted by a police officer and died from internal bleeding," said a family spokesperson.

"As time goes on, we hope that the full truth about how Ian died will be made known.


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