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dainja
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Re: Digital mixing vs. competent beat matching

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
For example, I've seen people state something along the lines of "if you're using Ableton only, you'd better do something great with it to wow me," etc.


That's exactly what I would say.
Beatmatching is a basic aspect of DJing. Without it, you cannot mix. However, it's not very difficult and there's MUCH, MUCH more difficult aspects to mixing.

I taught my girlfriend to beatmatch in half an hour but it took her months to learn to EQ properly and all the rest...

I find DJs mixing intro to outro, without doing anything interesting, without layering or sampling things...boring. I play on 3 decks otherwise I'm bored.

If I can do that AND have to beatmatch manually at the same time, you better do something crazy in Ableton otherwise I'll be bored. Might as well watch a CD play.

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david.michael
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Location: Dayton, OH, USA

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why do you feel that the basic rules of music don't apply?


Music doesn't always need to be pigeonholed into "rules".

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Ted Promo
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Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:
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Music doesn't always need to be pigeonholed into "rules".


Dave Dresden goes by autistic empathy and bipolar hi-hats.

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
why do you feel that the basic rules of music don't apply?


Because in practice they just don't matter much sometimes.


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Dave Dresden goes by autistic empathy and bipolar hi-hats.


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Clovis
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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Music doesn't always need to be pigeonholed into "rules".


its hardly "pigeonholing" to say that music has rules. that's just silly.

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Because in practice they just don't matter much sometimes.


next time you hear someone singing out of key, remind yourself that you said that


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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
its hardly "pigeonholing" to say that music has rules. that's just silly.



next time you hear someone singing out of key, remind yourself that you said that



No because its not the same situation.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
No because its not the same situation.


how so? it still (often) sounds like arse. out of key is out of key.


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nefardec
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clovis is right -

singing in the traditional sense (melodic, sustained) generally isn't used in a seth troxler like context

if the singer was just making weird noises or making little pop chords then it would be different



listen to anthony collins - lunatic fringe



also, what about buddhist tantras? i think you must have a very narrow definition of music

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
singing in the traditional sense (melodic, sustained) generally isn't used in a seth troxler like context

if the singer was just making weird noises or making little pop chords then it would be different



listen to anthony collins - lunatic fringe



also, what about buddhist tantras? i think you must have a very narrow definition of music


oh, i know nothing about music theory. just that whenever i hear music that's out of key (with either itself or another piece of music) it makes me cringe.

i certainly don't think that exceptions to rules or specific forms of music/styles mean its ok just to ignore key clashes in DJing.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i certainly don't think that exceptions to rules or specific forms of music/styles mean its ok just to ignore key clashes in DJing.


I wouldn't expect you to, if you don't DJ.


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