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Originally posted by SMC Is it?

you don't have to agree with me

Adam is just a big prog-hater.

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Originally posted by bas Does all techno have to sound the same? Why does it have to be so definitive?

do you like to answer questions w/ questions?

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i've just been moving another direction

to me prog of any sort is like windows vista - shiny, cluttered, restricted - and musically i am getting into unix

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Originally posted by nefardec you don't have to agree with me

I'm just asking because "prog" means different things in regard to different styles and different periods in time. Although it originally meant something closer to the opposite of what you described (experiment, innovation, progress, like in the progressive house of the early-mid 90s) todays so called prog house (and prog trance and stuff in between) is as stagnant as anything can get. That said i'm not sure where i should look to find that ideal you described (and compared techno to).

actually I think 'innovation' and 'progress' are really really subjective.

who knows, really.



and i'm not going to take your bait as far as 'ideal' goes because we all know that we have different tastes.

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Originally posted by nefardec actually I think 'innovation' and 'progress' are really really subjective. who knows, really. and i'm not going to take your bait as far as 'ideal' goes because we all know that we have different tastes.

Ok, i'm sorry, let me put it this way: what "prog" should i listen to if wanna hear artists "dilute the concept of the thing and move more towards a traditional 'song'"?

It has nothing to do with tastes, i'm not being an advocate for any type of prog or whatever, i don't even know exactly what prog you're refering to. I just found your interpretation a little odd, that's all.

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Originally posted by nefardec actually I think 'innovation' and 'progress' are really really subjective.

New topic for my future book on dance music.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...02&forumid=1&s=

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Originally posted by bigsnail do you like to answer questions w/ questions?

Yes.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by nefardec you're fixated on one kind of techno sound i think, this kind of full on big room techno

well, you're right here. I call it just "techno", but when talking about different "sub genres" I always use adjectives as "detroit, minimal, deep..."

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Originally posted by nefardec don't forget about Basic Channel, the Ifach Collective, UR, Warp Records, The Black Dog, etc Techno is such a broad thing, I think brought together by conceptual clarity and rawness.

I do agree with you again on this. Techno as Techno is so much more than naming a couple of people's track, and saying it is Techno.
Imo, Techno is more than a music...thats the way of how someone can actually proces something in his head, it is the way of building your thoughts/opinions based on parameters picked up from outer of your entity. And, imo, that rawness and uniqueness make it perfect.
But, it is philosphy now

Point is that I separate term "Techno" as a kind of "mental evolution progress expressed trough music which started decades ago, and still kickin' " and techno as a "sound which was dominating during eary 00's years"

I hope you understand what I am talking about

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