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Originally posted by Kinezi I think its just that a third world country is organizing olympics for the first time and western media and all these people who blame china at every single excuse cant just stand it.

What the hell are you going on about? Why are you so into sucking China's cock? You and Mr. Commie Chinaman Mndeg should just move to China and enjoy all your freedoms there from that freedom loving Chinese government.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r China is hardly, '3rd world'...

Well, that is technically true but most of the population doesn't live any differently than those in thrid world countires. Beijing and Hong Kong aren't exactly what the rest of the country looks like.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r China is hardly, '3rd world'...

Hipocracy at its best.

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Well, well...

Now lets just see if the IOC has the balls to strip the metals...

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IOC To Launch Investigation Into Ages Of Chinese Gymnasts The International Olympic Committee will investigate whether the Chinese women's gymnastics team that won the gold medal had underage athletes, saying "more information has come to light." "If there is a question mark and we have a concern, which we do, we ask the governing body of any sport to look into it," IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said Friday. Messages for the International Gymnastics Federation were not immediately returned. Questions about the ages of at least three of the athletes on China's team have swirled for months. Online records and newspaper accounts suggest three Chinese gymnasts -- He Kexin, Jiang Yuyuan and Jang Yilin -- may be as young as 14, but Chinese passport records show they meet the age rules. A gymnast must be 16 in an Olympic year to compete at the games. The IOC had said previously that it had verified the passports of all athletes competing at the games.

>>Source<<

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Originally posted by Kinezi I think its just that a third world country is organizing olympics for the first time and western media and all these people who blame china at every single excuse cant just stand it.

Most of them are unable to distinguish between your average chinese and the institution of state, but not everybody. And the there's a tendency, unfortunately, in the West to disrespect that which they don't understand... but in all fairness, that's kind of epidemic to the enitre world, it's just a lot more pronounced here as there is no concept of honor or respcet in Western culture (short of the "honor" of killing other people for your goverments interests, or "respecting" the insitution of state and bending over when it says so). Plus if you've ever notice in the media, Asians (i.e. east Asia), don't get much respect as is evident by all the stereo types that exist about Chinese or Japanese. That doesn't apply to everyone (obviously) but it does a fair number of people. Every minority gets shafted, even white folks get shafted by the system now. But it's politically incorrect to talk about any of it, in fact honesty is policitially incorrect. The Eastern cultures, just like any other cultures, have their fair share of problems and shortcomings too but if you talk about it you somehow become automatically a racist or a brainwashed American (I've personally dealt with accusations of the latter by "my own people," probably because I don't really believe in a concept of "your own people" in the first place). People are assholes no matter where you go or which group you're dealing with, there are obviously exceptions everywhere to, but being good or nice is generally veiwed as a 'weakness' or being honest, especially about political / social issues, generally earns you labels such as being a nut or a radical. The only thing that seems to diminish the effects of stereo types are celebrities in this crazy culture, and the case is a lot more severe in the case of American culture. Most people respect power (in a fearful way not a deeper way), and generally can't tolerate criticism or evaluation of anything they identify with, regardless of what it is. Peace.

EDIT: But not everyone is like that. The most prominent and recognized critics are usually found with in the relevant group itself.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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If they aren't following the rules, they should be stripped of their golds.

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Originally posted by Krypton If they aren't following the rules, they should be stripped of their golds.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that but he had a point too which I acknowledged.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Most of them are unable to distinguish between your average chinese and the institution of state, but not everybody. And the there's a tendency, unfortunately, in the West to disrespect that which they don't understand... but in all fairness, that's kind of epidemic to the enitre world, it's just a lot more pronounced here as there is no concept of honor or respcet in Western culture (short of the "honor" of killing other people for your goverments interests, or "respecting" the insitution of state and bending over when it says so). Plus if you've ever notice in the media, Asians (i.e. east Asia), don't get much respect as is evident by all the stereo types that exist about Chinese or Japanese. That doesn't apply to everyone (obviously) but it does a fair number of people. Every minority gets shafted, even white folks get shafted by the system now. But it's politically incorrect to talk about any of it, in fact honesty is policitially incorrect. The Eastern cultures, just like any other cultures, have their fair share of problems and shortcomings too but if you talk about it you somehow become automatically a racist or a brainwashed American (I've personally dealt with accusations of the latter by "my own people," probably because I don't really believe in a concept of "your own people" in the first place). People are assholes no matter where you go or which group you're dealing with, there are obviously exceptions everywhere to, but being good or nice is generally veiwed as a 'weakness' or being honest, especially about political / social issues, generally earns you labels such as being a nut or a radical. The only thing that seems to diminish the effects of stereo types are celebrities in this crazy culture, and the case is a lot more severe in the case of American culture. Most people respect power (in a fearful way not a deeper way), and generally can't tolerate criticism or evaluation of anything they identify with, regardless of what it is. Peace. EDIT: But not everyone is like that. The most prominent and recognized critics are usually found with in the relevant group itself.

all of this self masturbation and yet you post "funny" pictures that make fun of other culture's translations skills...

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Only in Japan

nice

engrish....how western of you

Lemme guess man, you're eigther trolling or agreeing. I've noticed too many of your posts shortly following mine, and I'm guessing most of them are ones I wounldn't want to bother reading in the first place; eigther way, there's no point and you're just wasting your time. You're on my ignore list and have been for at least a month now and I don't really see any reason to take you off. You're too much of an asshole to even dignify with reading a post or responding to. So consider this my last post ever directed at you, although feel free to continue making a fool of yourself.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Kinezi I think its just that a third world country is organizing olympics for the first time and western media and all these people who blame china at every single excuse cant just stand it.

China failed to live up to its Olympic promises when it was bidding for the Games. Thats the main concern from my side.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Lemme guess man, you're eigther trolling or agreeing. I've noticed too many of your posts shortly following mine,

dude .. get over your self already... this is a public forum and yes, I do agree with allot of what you post about...... but its just a coinky a dink that I post after you, its very seldom that I even address you directly...its only when you try to shovel BS do I call you out, even though you have me on ignore, at least others see your faults. you don't know everything and perhaps, you should pay heed to your own signature quote.

this is not a conspiracy man, its just the internet....

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Most of them are unable to distinguish between your average chinese and the institution of state, but not everybody. And the there's a tendency, unfortunately, in the West to disrespect that which they don't understand... but in all fairness, that's kind of epidemic to the enitre world, it's just a lot more pronounced here as there is no concept of honor or respcet in Western culture (short of the "honor" of killing other people for your goverments interests, or "respecting" the insitution of state and bending over when it says so). Plus if you've ever notice in the media, Asians (i.e. east Asia), don't get much respect as is evident by all the stereo types that exist about Chinese or Japanese. That doesn't apply to everyone (obviously) but it does a fair number of people. Every minority gets shafted, even white folks get shafted by the system now. But it's politically incorrect to talk about any of it, in fact honesty is policitially incorrect. The Eastern cultures, just like any other cultures, have their fair share of problems and shortcomings too but if you talk about it you somehow become automatically a racist or a brainwashed American (I've personally dealt with accusations of the latter by "my own people," probably because I don't really believe in a concept of "your own people" in the first place). People are assholes no matter where you go or which group you're dealing with, there are obviously exceptions everywhere to, but being good or nice is generally veiwed as a 'weakness' or being honest, especially about political / social issues, generally earns you labels such as being a nut or a radical. The only thing that seems to diminish the effects of stereo types are celebrities in this crazy culture, and the case is a lot more severe in the case of American culture. Most people respect power (in a fearful way not a deeper way), and generally can't tolerate criticism or evaluation of anything they identify with, regardless of what it is. Peace. EDIT: But not everyone is like that. The most prominent and recognized critics are usually found with in the relevant group itself.

Nice post. Good read.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium China failed to live up to its Olympic promises when it was bidding for the Games. Thats the main concern from my side.

China has set new benchmarks when it comes to 'organizing' the olympics.

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