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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

...but hey, lets just all play pacifists and pretend nothing is going on at the hand of Islamic extremism...
Right?
At least our soldiers will be home and we can all feel warm and fuzzy about ourselves...

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Date Country City Killed Injured Description
8/30/2008 Philippines Sulu 4 10 Four local soldiers are killed in a brutal ambush by Islamic extremists.
8/30/2008 Chechnya Vedeno 2 11 A Fedayeen suicide attack is one of two bombings that leave two people dead.
8/30/2008 Iraq Iskandariya 2 0 Two civilians are murdered by Jihadis, one of whom is decapitated.
8/30/2008 Pakistan Swat 2 0 A civilian and a cop are murdered by Mujahideen in separate attacks.
8/30/2008 Pakistan Kurram 19 70 Nineteen tribesman are killed in a series of Taliban suicide attacks and ambushes.
8/30/2008 Iraq al-Ahbash 4 0 A husband, wife and their two children are slaughtered in their home by al-Qaeda militants.
8/29/2008 Algeria Batna 7 14 Islamic fundamentalists kill seven Algerians in a highway attack.
8/29/2008 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 0 A local cop is gunned down by Islamic militants.
8/29/2008 Pakistan Kohat Tunnel 5 37 Fedayeen suicide car bombers murder five innocents.
8/29/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A civilian is killed during an attack by Islamic militia.
8/29/2008 Somalia Kismayo 2 1 Two brothers are gunned down by armed Islamists.
8/28/2008 Lebanon Sejoud 1 0 Hezbollah gunmen fire on a helicoptor, killing a Lebanese officer.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Koza Bandai 1 0 The Taliban abduct and murder a civilian.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Two civilians are beheaded by religious radicals.
8/28/2008 China Xinjiang 2 7 Knife-wielding Muslims set upon a group of police, stabbing at least two to death.
8/28/2008 Pakistan Bannu 10 16 Islamic bombers target a bus carrying prisoners, leaving at least ten dead.
8/28/2008 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A man and his wife are gunned down by Islamic terrorists.
8/27/2008 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A young man and woman are shot to death in separate attacks by radical Islamists.
8/27/2008 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 0 A Japanese humanitarian worker on an irrigation project is kidnapped and murdered by the Taliban.
8/27/2008 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 51-year-old electrical worker is shot to death by Mujahid.
8/27/2008 Pakistan Wana 2 11 A Taliban ambush leaves two local soldiers dead.
8/27/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two civilians are killed in a sudden attack by Islamic militia.
8/27/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim gunmen murder a government social worker.
8/27/2008 India Jammu 6 0 Lashkar-e-Toiba shoot six civilians to death, including a cab driver and his passengers.
8/26/2008 Pakistan Islamabad 8 20 Sunni radicals manage to kill eight patrons at a cafe with a planted bomb.
8/26/2008 Somalia Baidoa 2 1 Two people are killed in a Mujahideen grenade attack on their home.
8/26/2008 India Kupwara 1 1 A local soldier is shot to death in an ambush by Islamic militants.
8/26/2008 Iraq Mandali 5 0 A family of five is taken out by Jihadi roadside bombers as they are traveling to a religious shrine.
8/26/2008 Iraq Jalawla 28 45 A suicide bomber calmly walks up and murders over twenty-five police recruits waiting outside a station.
8/25/2008 Sudan Darfur 32 135 Women and children are among the thirty-two bodies counted following a government attack on a civilian refugee camp.
8/25/2008 Iraq Mussayab 1 2 Jihadis kill a soldier's daughter and injure his two sons with a bomb near his home.
8/25/2008 Pakistan Swat 10 2 Ten occupants of a home are killed when Talibanis fire rockets into it.
8/25/2008 Pakistan Shakardara 2 0 Two tribesmen are killed and several girls schools are blown up during a rampage by Islamic hardliners.
8/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 30 42 Thirty people attending a celebration are blown apart by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
8/24/2008 Pakistan Matta 4 0 Islamists kidnap and bind four civilians, then shoot them to death.
8/24/2008 Iraq Baghdad 9 32 Nine civilians are murdered in three separate Jihad bombings.


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Kinezi
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
...but hey, lets just all play pacifists and pretend nothing is going on at the hand of Islamic extremism...
Right?
At least our soldiers will be home and we can all feel warm and fuzzy about ourselves...


Where is the link to that quote?


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Lebezniatnikov
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Are you comparing Iraq to Kashmir and Darfur? I'm not sure what you're trying to say there.


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Kinezi
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Are you comparing Iraq to Kashmir and Darfur? I'm not sure what you're trying to say there.


Pakistan is not Kashmir, all the attacks in Pakistan mentioned in that qoute is in border areas of Afghanistan.. so it should be considered an extension of on-going war in Afghanistan which has lost its borders and moved to North Pakistan.


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quote:
Originally posted by atbell
What's NY's homicide rate these days?


we're at 330 murders for the year, although manhattan (nyc for non-nyers) has had only 43 murders this year - subtract the parts of manhattan no tourists visit (harlem, morningside heights, and inwood) to get to the NYC that tourists think of, and we're down to 15 or so murders this year. not too bad

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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
...but hey, lets just all play pacifists and pretend nothing is going on at the hand of Islamic extremism...
Right?
At least our soldiers will be home and we can all feel warm and fuzzy about ourselves...


You're delusional if you think there is a military solution to Islamist rebellions. You crack me up sometimes..


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Originally posted by jerZ07002
we're at 330 murders for the year, although manhattan (nyc for non-nyers) has had only 43 murders this year.


Just imagine NYC having 100 murders a week...


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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
You're delusional if you think there is a military solution to Islamist rebellions. You crack me up sometimes..


Only as much as you are for thinking there is another way.
Tell me, other than being critical what kind of negotiations do you believe can be had with these extremists?
You actually believe there are 'concessions' that can be made?
Remember, we're talking about people who will take nothing less than our outright conversion or live under Dhimmi-hood...


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Originally posted by Krypton
Just imagine NYC having 100 murders a week...


during the 90's there was a period when NYC had about 50 murders a week!!! (50 per 8 million) that's actually higher than 100 murders a week in a population of 28 million.

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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Only as much as you are for thinking there is another way.
Tell me, other than being critical what kind of negotiations do you believe can be had with these extremists?
You actually believe there are 'concessions' that can be made?
Remember, we're talking about people who will take nothing less than our outright conversion or live under Dhimmi-hood...


How about treating them like the criminals they are? Oh but no, we have send in the military and call it a "War on Terror". Well congratulations. You just turned a group of organized criminals into into something worth fighting for on their side. The overwhelming majority of terrorist groups to have been shut down and eliminated were done so by POLICE enforcement. NOT military occupations of entire countries. Look at Palestine. Israel has been occupying them for how many decades? And still the terrorism continues. Afghanistan, how many years have we been fighting the Taliban now? Iraq, 100 murders last week, and you call that success? There are OTHER ways, and you've got problems if you think military occupation is the only solution, or just plain delusional...


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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
How about treating them like the criminals they are? Oh but no, we have send in the military and call it a "War on Terror". Well congratulations. You just turned a group of organized criminals into into something worth fighting for on their side. The overwhelming majority of terrorist groups to have been shut down and eliminated were done so by POLICE enforcement. NOT military occupations of entire countries. Look at Palestine. Israel has been occupying them for how many decades? And still the terrorism continues. Afghanistan, how many years have we been fighting the Taliban now? Iraq, 100 murders last week, and you call that success? There are OTHER ways, and you've got problems if you think military occupation is the only solution, or just plain delusional...


You're right but you are ahead of yourself.
In order to have a police presence you have to have some civility or order to the government and etablish some sort of control in the area before you can 'police' it - hence military...

It's the whole reason they're still there!


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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
How about treating them like the criminals they are? Oh but no, we have send in the military and call it a "War on Terror". Well congratulations. You just turned a group of organized criminals into into something worth fighting for on their side. The overwhelming majority of terrorist groups to have been shut down and eliminated were done so by POLICE enforcement. NOT military occupations of entire countries. Look at Palestine. Israel has been occupying them for how many decades? And still the terrorism continues. Afghanistan, how many years have we been fighting the Taliban now? Iraq, 100 murders last week, and you call that success? There are OTHER ways, and you've got problems if you think military occupation is the only solution, or just plain delusional...


You're right but you are ahead of yourself.
In order to have a police presence you have to have some civility or order to the government and establish some sort of control in the area before you can 'police' it - hence military...

It's the whole reason they're still there!


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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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