Originally posted by gummybear
at the risk of sounding stupid..what's a rider?
a buddy of mine that works at the guv gave me this thick document from
Freedom 07..it basically has all the requests..set ups..itineraries....etc...is that a rider...?
Jar of grape jelly
Jar of peanut butter
Box of Cuban cigars (Montecristo)
Bucket of fried chicken (KFC,Church's)
etc.
Sep-05-2008 17:26
gummybear
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: T dot O dot
quote:
Originally posted by elFreak
old dumb whore is old and dumb.
the second part of your sentence is redundant..the first part already explained that you think i'm old AND dumb...
have yourself a nice day..
Sep-05-2008 17:52
activate
I <3 Boobies
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by techead
nice reply Joel
Congratulations and power too you I wish you nothing but sucess
Just curious though
You mention having to pay for flights and hotels, yet every rider I have had to fullfill (and thats a lot of riders over the years for a lot of A list DJ's) has almost always included at the very least Business class flights in and out of town and 4 star or boutique hotel accomodation as well as Transport, meals or buyout , not to mention the backstage rider.
So here is the question, you are definately A list now so why are you paying for these yourself
Russ
Though I know nothing of Joels contracts...
I deal with DJs and contracts on a regular basis. Normally these days clubs/promoters pay an "all in" fee that includes performance and airfare for the artist and tour manager/gear. It makes our lives easier to not have to deal with co-ordinating and paying for flights. such a pain in the ass. Most agencies have someone in house that deals with that sort of thing as well.
Hotel usually is taken care of by the promoter/club, but some talent offer a buy out. Same goes for food, but I've booked a couple of guys that take a per diem instead.
Ground transportation is normally taken care of by promoter/club
Rider at the club is taken care of by the club/promoter
Club sluts are free
Sep-05-2008 18:35
activate
I <3 Boobies
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto
Biggest rider I've had an artist give me was 9 pages!!
Sep-05-2008 18:37
Adamo
womp womp
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Mississauga
quote:
Originally posted by activate
Biggest rider I've had an artist give me was 9 pages!!
who was that? (if u can say)
Sep-05-2008 19:06
techead
HouseMusic all night long
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: The Frozen North
quote:
Originally posted by activate
Though I know nothing of Joels contracts...
I deal with DJs and contracts on a regular basis. Normally these days clubs/promoters pay an "all in" fee that includes performance and airfare for the artist and tour manager/gear. It makes our lives easier to not have to deal with co-ordinating and paying for flights. such a pain in the ass. Most agencies have someone in house that deals with that sort of thing as well.
Hotel usually is taken care of by the promoter/club, but some talent offer a buy out. Same goes for food, but I've booked a couple of guys that take a per diem instead.
Ground transportation is normally taken care of by promoter/club
Rider at the club is taken care of by the club/promoter
Club sluts are free
Hi Evan
i've also been dealing wih DJ contracts for about 20 years now but whose counting (fux showing my aga again)
To say that flights are normally included is not something i have dealt with
In the last couple of years i have had to buy way to many flights for dj's
and hotels.
Very often you have to book the flight using the travel company choosen by the DJ/agency thereby ensuring even more profit for them, so I guess I see where you are coming from with regards to an all in price, but it is always a plus on top of the fee regardless
Last edited by techead on Sep-05-2008 at 22:59
Sep-05-2008 22:47
activate
I <3 Boobies
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by techead
Hi Evan
i've also been dealing wih DJ contracts for about 20 years now but whose counting (fux showing my aga again)
To say that flights are normally included is not something i have dealt with
In the last couple of years i have had to buy way to many flights for dj's
and hotels.
Very often you have to book the flight using the travel company choosen by the DJ/agency thereby ensuring even more profit for them, so I guess I see where you are coming from with regards to an all in price, but it is always a plus on top of the fee regardless
well yes the fee will be a little higher if it's all in... and it's the same price in the end.. but less to worry about for the promoter.
This is the way everyone usually does it now, though I'm sure there is the odd exception.
Sep-05-2008 23:54
slingshot
crayola
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Toronto, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
awesome post
I concur. Great insights. The same can be said about anything from tunes to butter. It takes money and time to create a brand...but in order to obtain long term financial security...brand creation is absolutely necessary. I also think it's quite awesome that one of the biggest producers in the world calls Toronto home. In Sasha's interview about Invol2er on the GU site he references Toronto as a place where "the best" music is coming out of. It was really cool to hear that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he was probably referencing Deadmau5.
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Sep-06-2008 00:21
LKD
Omni-peasant
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Its June 18th, 2005, I'm at the Skybar
quote:
Originally posted by slingshot
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he was probably referencing Deadmau5.
it takes a rocket scientist to laugh at such a statement cos there ARE alot of other well known producers out there....oh wait..no im sorry...the only producer that ever came out of toronto was deadrat...w00p5 my bad
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: leaning against the speaker stack
quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
it takes a rocket scientist to laugh at such a statement cos there ARE alot of other well known producers out there....oh wait..no im sorry...the only producer that ever came out of toronto was deadrat...w00p5 my bad