looks like i've brought nothing but sadness to the thread
i'm going to leave now
Sep-04-2008 22:37
MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
Actually, my life really could use some excitement. It's very routine and sedate.
Maybe that's why I never run into moral dilemmas.
Sep-04-2008 22:39
Project-K
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec
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Originally posted by Zild
I'm probably biased though because I worked for a theoretical chemistry professor doing computation and he was always making fun of anthropology since that is what he studied for undergrad.
Yeah and you'd probably find physicists who laugh at chemistry and don't consider it real science.
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Sep-04-2008 22:55
spanglo
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Location: San Diego
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Maybe that's why I never run into moral dilemmas.
You never run into moral dilemmas because you’re a vagina.
Sep-04-2008 23:03
Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
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Originally posted by Project-K
Yeah and you'd probably find physicists who laugh at chemistry and don't consider it real science.
LOL maybe but they wouldn't be justified in the same way a theoretical quantum chemist (i.e. physicist who can count electrons) would by in laughing at an anthropologist.
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Originally posted by Zild
LOL maybe but they wouldn't be justified in the same way a theoretical quantum chemist (i.e. physicist who can count electrons) would by in laughing at an anthropologist.
No maybe not. Regardless, when you spend such a significant portion of your life earning a degree it's natural to be defensive, which I suspect is at least part of the reason why so many of these 'traditional' scientists seem to engage in their own respective ego-stroking sessions on a regular basis - especially towards these very young and new fields of study. I have friends at uni who are mostly in these fields so I see a lot of this sort of behavior; students looking down or laughing at other fields based on concepts they themselves don't understand.
Not to say there isn't merit in the dinstinction between social studies and sciences. I do consider sociology and anthropology rather ambiguous in their classification. As a matter of fact most teachers I've had in those fields don't really consider themselves scientists in the traditional sense of the word. It's just that most of the time I've heard it from pure scientists, it wasn't an intelligent discussion so much as it was an immature dick measuring contest.
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Sep-04-2008 23:15
Lira
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Location: Brasilia, Brazil
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Originally posted by nefardec
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Originally posted by Zild
I feel that stuff like thermodynamics is just a mathematical abstraction to help solve problems but it isn't reality. But I think that stuff like psychology is more rooted in the tactile and the real. It isn't so much a mathematical abstraction to understand behavioral conditioning etc...
Interesting point of view. I don't think I really want to get into this, but I can assure you that both anthropology and physics face similar problems when it comes to theory and representation.
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Sep-04-2008 23:17
SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
I face a big one every time I care to engage with it. I have a moral logic worked out that justifies me eating meat. The only trouble is the same logic carried to its conclusion tells me it's okay to be a cannibal, even though the idea feels quite obviously wrong.
ughh zero integrity left i swear. i love my coworkers though and i could walk to work (save on gas) so i dunno it has its pros and cons...but personal injury is the bottom of the barrell when it comes to areas of law. no one gives a shit about anyone and all the doctors are whores for the industry. just say whatever will win the case, fuck the patients. not that they are even hurt....lol stupid ghetto ass morons thinking they just got a winning lotto ticket because they were rear ended
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Sep-05-2008 00:16
Project-K
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have a moral logic worked out that justifies me eating meat. The only trouble is the same logic carried to its conclusion tells me it's okay to be a cannibal, even though the idea feels quite obviously wrong.
haha
I have the same logical reasoning, but somehow I don't have any moral dillema. I fully realize that my behavior in that regard is completely arbitrary, and I don't seem to have a problem with it.
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Sep-05-2008 00:18
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
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Originally posted by Project-K
No maybe not. Regardless, when you spend such a significant portion of your life earning a degree it's natural to be defensive, which I suspect is at least part of the reason why so many of these 'traditional' scientists seem to engage in their own respective ego-stroking sessions on a regular basis - especially towards these very young and new fields of study. I have friends at uni who are mostly in these fields so I see a lot of this sort of behavior; students looking down or laughing at other fields based on concepts they themselves don't understand.
Not to say there isn't merit in the dinstinction between social studies and sciences. I do consider sociology and anthropology rather ambiguous in their classification. As a matter of fact most teachers I've had in those fields don't really consider themselves scientists in the traditional sense of the word. It's just that most of the time I've heard it from pure scientists, it wasn't an intelligent discussion so much as it was an immature dick measuring contest.
I agree with you on all of this which is why I openly said I was biased. Meaning I'm mostly joking and that if you don't agree with me I fully understand.
Now why don't you go and convince all the major universities of the world that anthropology degrees need to be awarded by the College of Science instead of the College of Liberal Arts.
All I'm saying is once you're in the QM brotherhood you're there for life.
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I've never been able to eat a whole baby.
Kill the women. Eat the children.
It's just one of those days where you want to bend over everyone you know and kiss their ass goodbye with a big sideways boot.