still no answer then huh? More long-winded quotes that don't mean a damned thing? Are you scared of debating george on the matter? I don’t blame you, he knows an awful lot more about this than you ever will.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Don't you even bother to investigate the facts surrounding these issues, pkc, or do you just mindlessly repeat every bit of pro-EU, pro-New World Order, and/or pro-Socialist propaganda that you hear?

I am an advocate of globalisation and the extension of free markets across the globe. Free markets help topple oppressive governments. Its amusing to see you call yourself a libertarian yet are so against the logical extension of private enterprise across national boundaries. higher standards of living and freer societies help avoid wars. its really that simple.

i'd be interested in you posting what you believe is "pro NWO propaganda", that's kind've like referring to pro-santa claus propaganda

FYI i was also researching alternative political systems (yes, including socialism!) well before you decided to go on your 'journey of exhaustive truth search' which you like to refer to regularly.

Its interesting you keep referencing the few irish dissenters, what about the rest of europe that voted in favour? Their opinions are meaningless to you im sure. You'd much rather quote some fascist that agrees with your pre-conceived notions.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Can you give me any reason why I should? BTW, I have no doubt whatsoever that you have no idea who Nigel Farage is and only happened upon him by searching for predetermined items and Farage happened to match the crap you searched for, so you automatically post him up as if he's going to prove you point: Fail

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I mean, why should I even have to bother dignifying such a horrendously fallacious line of argumentation with a response?

LOL

Now this is too much - the man who claims anything tied to David Rockefeller must by extension be either communist, Nazi, or Zionist now cries about being on the other end of guilt by association.

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Right now it doesn't matter who or what Nigel Farage is. It's the truth that he speaks that matters to me.

Is ANYONE perfect? I seem to doubt it.

Was JFK perfect? No. He was an adulterer

MLK? No. He was one, too.

America's Founding Fathers? No. Many were slave owners.

Was Ghandi? Well, he was close to perfect but he also used to drink his own pee.

Is Nigel Farage perfect? Of course not but at least he's standing up for the rights of the Irish people as well as for those of us who don't want to see the eventual implementation of a fascist world government.

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"Learn, child, to catch a hint through whatever agency it may be given. 'Sermons may be preached through stones." - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, first series, p. 74, letter 31

It sounds like the EU wants Britain to fail as well.


UKIP's Trevor Colman: Britain On The Brink, European Union Conspiracy



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Trevor Colman is a retired UK Police Superintendent and is very concerned that his country is no longer governed by the British people. He warns of an undemocratic one world scheme that will affect most nations around the globe. Hidden plans to take over and diminish national sovereignty are now being implemented by the EU. He urges lawful and Democratic resistance to this planned erosion of representative government. The succession of UK Prime Ministers leading to the nation’s demise all had hidden plans. He urges support from all freedom loving peoples around the globe in this fight to regain lost Freedom.

http://www.ukip.org/page/ukip-meps

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"Learn, child, to catch a hint through whatever agency it may be given. 'Sermons may be preached through stones." - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, first series, p. 74, letter 31

It's strange, because the first true union of states, the United States of America benefited from such a union. Wouldn't it be in Europe's best interest to do that same? Then again, European states are much different from the American states. European states are essentially based on ethnic ground, i.e. Germans, French, English, Italian, etc. It's understandable for these state's citizens to be wary of forfeiting their country's sovereignty to a supra-national federation. In the United States, each state was essentially made up of the same ethnicity...white settlers and their black slaves. The EU must decide where to draw the line between European Parliament rule, and the national sovereignty of each nation.

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