Originally posted by English Rachel
PS Cribs, Graham is right about the last call in my experience. It really lessened the after-club violence in the UK when they made it 24 hour licensing.
I'm more worried about the % of drunk driving if there was no last call (in the case of all night partiers.) With a limit, at least most people get to sober up by the early morning. Also, without last call, the city would need maximum police coverage throughout the whole night/morning which would be more costly too.
There are definately some benefits to either/or... but I'm not sold on the idea yet. How does the UK work around these potential problems?
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Nov-07-2008 18:32
Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
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Originally posted by Cribby
I'm more worried about the % of drunk driving if there was no last call (in the case of all night partiers.) With a limit, at least most people get to sober up by the early morning. Also, without last call, the city would need maximum police coverage throughout the whole night/morning which would be more costly too.
There are definately some benefits to either/or... but I'm not sold on the idea yet. How does the UK work around these potential problems?
The bar staff should (and must) enforce rules that prevent over intoxication.
This is also assuming that people are adults, and are responsible for own actions. People should know their own limits.
Originally posted by chinamon
not true. i say "ugh"
but i am a tranny.
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Originally posted by kotsy
lol colour me retarded
Nov-07-2008 18:50
English Rachel
I Am Canadian
Registered: Jul 2006
Location: Lovely Leslieville
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Originally posted by Cribby
I'm more worried about the % of drunk driving if there was no last call (in the case of all night partiers.) With a limit, at least most people get to sober up by the early morning. Also, without last call, the city would need maximum police coverage throughout the whole night/morning which would be more costly too.
There are definately some benefits to either/or... but I'm not sold on the idea yet. How does the UK work around these potential problems?
Good question, I honestly don't know the answer though
I think there has been drink driving coverage in the mornings for a good few years and to be honest, the clubs close at 3 or 4 anyway and by that time, people have had their fill. I guess the psychology changes, in so much as people don't need to have those last few before the bar closes and therefore it encourages more responsible drinking and not 10 tequilas at 10 to 2
Does that make sense?
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Nov-07-2008 18:54
StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI
the top 40 clubs close about 30 minutes after last call. these people are definitely just as likely if not more to drive drunk than if there was no last call.
Nov-07-2008 19:03
The Highroller
ad hoc and ad lib
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Flying over the cuckoo's nest
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
the top 40 clubs close about 30 minutes after last call. these people are definitely just as likely if not more to drive drunk than if there was no last call.
Agreed. Not only that, I highly doubt that people who stay after last call are there to "sober up". They're there to start doing drugs.
Glad to see my letter got published!
Nov-07-2008 22:08
Swamper
Webmonstah
Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
the top 40 clubs close about 30 minutes after last call. these people are definitely just as likely if not more to drive drunk than if there was no last call.
Not true. When all I went to were Top 40 clubs many ppl would stay until close primarily for this reason -- but back then it wasn't uncommon for the club to keep going later.. at least past 3 or more as long as it was still busy.
Congrats on the publishing Graham!
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Nov-07-2008 22:22
Jem_hadar
I remember...
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Pandora (South of Nowhere)
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Originally posted by Cribby
Also, without last call, the city would need maximum police coverage throughout the whole night/morning which would be more costly too.
Not true actually, Cribs. The city would save money, bc they wouldnt need the large sizeable force of officers they currently use to deal w/ the massive influx (outflux?) of drunken folks all around the 2am-3am timeframe (1/2 of which say have ordered 2-4 drinks at or just before last call so they could keep getting drunk!). No last call would also discourage binge drinking around last call.
Generally it will take a lot less police effort to manage a crowd that slowly dissipates from the clubs/bars over the early hours in the morning than it does to deal w/ the tidal wave of patrons that exist all in the same time period as is now w/ a last call in place.
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Nov-07-2008 22:22
musicsnob_NOT
because it is so
Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
Did Adam Vaughan reply to you?
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Nov-08-2008 00:10
The Highroller
ad hoc and ad lib
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Flying over the cuckoo's nest
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Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
Did Adam Vaughan reply to you?
Lol, of course not.
Nov-08-2008 00:18
dEsidEL
Fu Man Choonz
Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt
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Originally posted by The Highroller
Glad to see my letter got published!
nice job on having your letter published G. it goes to show a lot more in the way of exploring solutions and promoting social activism through the media than the large myriad of others who do nothing but sit & complain.
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