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Re: Re: Holocaust Denial
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
It is called fog of war. While I am not a holocaust denier, I am not a holocaust supporter. It is imposible to substanciate something you didn't see or organize yourself. |
This may be the most idiotic thing I've read.
| quote: | | Honestly I don't know, and I won't state something as truth that I didn't see and substantiate as actual myself. |
What you're really stating here is that you do not have the ability to critically evaluate evidence and form a conclusion therefrom.
| quote: | | Same goes for the birth and death of Jesus, or Mohammad, Buddah, or JFK. While I can't denie these as social facts for much of the world population - I myself cannot state them as Truth, because I didn't witness these people myself, I've only heard second source and beyond information about them. |
I can accept that there are legitimate questions regarding Jesus and the Buddah but Mohammad and JFK... you're nuts, their births, lives, and deaths are well documented and we know exactly where both are buried. At some point you have to accept evidence that is beyond your individual experience or direct observation otherwise you remain as an infant; believing there is no existence beyond yourself.
Anyone who doesn't have primary source evidence eg. experiencing or seeing something themself has the right not to beleive.
| quote: | | The allies wern't exactly "angels" during the war, and they wern't exactly "jew lovers" since they so said let it happen, and anti semitism was rampant with the allies also. |
While this is true there is a difference between actively seeking to exterminate people and delaying the rescue of said people until it you have sufficient resources and strategical advantage to increase the probability that the operation would be successful and not divert resources critical to the larger war effort.
| quote: | | Honestly though I understand what happened, and it wasn't just jews. It was all enemies of state. |
Indeed, and it was a terrible thing for all the groups involved.
| quote: | | Canada and the US had camps also. |
That may be the worst bit of moral relativism I've heard. Sure, Canada and the US had camps where Japanese persons were interred during the war... partly for national security, partly for their own security, but mostly due to irrational fear. There is one hell of a difference; however, between holding people in a secure facility and killing people on an industrial scale.
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| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about. |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down 
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