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dirty numb angel boy



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: YYZ (finally)

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Couple of points:

"The pilots heroic efforts in landing the plane"

Like fuck...did this pilot train to become a pilot or not?? These guys are PROFESSIONALS. They're supposed to know exactly how to do this shit. It'd be "heroic" if somebody other than the pilot landed that plane in the water. Good job, for sure, but easy there. Next thing you know they'll be giving this guy the Medal of Freedom.

"The plane miraculously stayed afloat long enough for the passengers to get off"

Ok...I've flown in airplanes like 50 times by now probably and every single time they do that stupid "what to do in case of a water landing" drill. I always assumed that planes were designed to somehow stay afloat long enough for people to evacuate but it turns out that a miracle needs to occur for you to get your ass out of that plane before it sinks to the bottom.



I know eh? Ever since they started kicking terrorists off the planes it's been pretty ho-hum.


You couldn't have made yourself look stupider if you tried. The survival rate of a transport category jet ditching into water before Today hovered somewhere just above 0.

A transport category jet isn't a bouy, or a fucking boston whaler, that's designed to float when it's been damaged. Get a grip dude.

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elFreak
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quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
You couldn't have made yourself look stupider


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fbgdavidson
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY

quote:
Originally posted by sheisrevolution
what! im about to go to newark right now with US airways leaving houston, my flights at 5:30...now im scared.


Yes, be scared because planes ditch all over the place...if you hear about a car crash on the news do you freak out and get scared about your next drive too?

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
You're more likely to get in a car accident than go down in a plane. People who are scared to fly need to piss off.

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Couple of points:

"The pilots heroic efforts in landing the plane"

Like fuck...did this pilot train to become a pilot or not?? These guys are PROFESSIONALS. They're supposed to know exactly how to do this shit. It'd be "heroic" if somebody other than the pilot landed that plane in the water. Good job, for sure, but easy there. Next thing you know they'll be giving this guy the Medal of Freedom.

"The plane miraculously stayed afloat long enough for the passengers to get off"

Ok...I've flown in airplanes like 50 times by now probably and every single time they do that stupid "what to do in case of a water landing" drill. I always assumed that planes were designed to somehow stay afloat long enough for people to evacuate but it turns out that a miracle needs to occur for you to get your ass out of that plane before it sinks to the bottom.

I know eh? Ever since they started kicking terrorists off the planes it's been pretty ho-hum.


Planes aren't designed with floating in water in mind. Why should they? The chances of an aircraft ending up in the water are so remote that it shouldn't be taken into account. Are cars designed to float too because people occasionally drive them into canals?


quote:
Originally posted by failsafe
You couldn't have made yourself look stupider if you tried. The survival rate of a transport category jet ditching into water before Today hovered somewhere just above 0.

A transport category jet isn't a bouy, or a fucking boston whaler, that's designed to float when it's been damaged. Get a grip dude.


Well actually for controlled landings in water the statistics aren't that bad:
http://www.rescue007.org/faq.htm#14


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Nrg2Nfinit
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Location: Ottawa

hes right

this is what would usually happen


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tubularbills
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quote:
Originally posted by elFreak

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dirty numb angel boy



Registered: Jan 2001
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Until more information comes out, I'm weary to call this a controlled ditching. There's a big difference between having the time to plan and set things up, and having a dual engine failure at 100 agl and then gliding into the Hudson river.

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tubularbills
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quote:
NEW YORK – The pilot who guided a crippled US Airways jetliner safely into the Hudson River — saving all 155 people aboard — became an instant hero Thursday, with accolades from the mayor and governor and a fan club online.

The pilot of Flight 1549 was Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger III, 57, of Danville, Calif., an official familiar with the accident told The Associated Press. Sullenberger is a former fighter pilot who runs a safety consulting firm in addition to flying commercial aircraft.

Sullenberger, who has flown for US Airways since 1980, flew F-4 fighter jets with the Air Force in the 1970s. He then served on a board that investigated aircraft accidents and participated later in several National Transportation Safety Board investigations.

He is president of Safety Reliability Methods, a California firm that uses "the ultra-safe world of commercial aviation" as a basis for safety consulting in other fields, according to the firm's Web site.

Sullenberger's mailbox at the firm was full on Thursday. A group of fans sprang up on Facebook within hours of the emergency landing.

"OMG, I am terrified of flying but I would be happy to be a passenger on one of your aircraft!!" Melanie Wills in Bristol wrote on the wall of "Fans of Sully Sullenberger." "You have saved a lot of peoples lives and are a true hero!!"

The pilot "did a masterful job of landing the plane in the river and then making sure that everybody got out," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "He walked the plane twice after everybody else was off, and tried to verify that there was nobody else on board, and he assures us there was not."

"He was the last one up the aisle and he made sure that there was nobody behind him."

Gov. David Paterson pronounced it a "miracle on the Hudson."

A woman who answered the phone at Sullenberger's home in Danville hung up on a reporter who asked to speak with the family.

Candace Anderson, a member of the Danville town council who lives a few blocks from Sullenberger, said it was an amazing story and she was proud to live in the same town as the pilot.

"You look at his training, you look at his experience. It was just the right pilot at the right time in charge of that plane that saved so many lives," Anderson said. "He is a man who is calm, cool, collected, just as he was today."

Sullenberger's co-pilot was Jeff Skiles, 49, of Oregon, Wis., a 23-year US Airways veteran.

"He was OK," said his wife, Barbara. "He was relieved that everybody got off."

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fbgdavidson
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
hes right

this is what would usually happen




If it hadn't been for the fact a hijacker was trying to bash his head in which caused the wing to dip, causing a cartwheel then the pilot would have brought it down nicely...


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quote:
Originally posted by Brizzo
"It's all gone Pete Tong" is actually a phrase in Europe, England I believe. Pretty sure that's where Pete Tong got his DJ name from as well.


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failsafe
dirty numb angel boy



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fbgdavidson: I'm interested, Have you ever flown a transport category jet?

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polkovnik86
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Location: Toronto

Lol Airbus, another reason to fly Boeing.

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Nrg2Nfinit
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Ottawa

quote:
Originally posted by fbgdavidson
If it hadn't been for the fact a hijacker was trying to bash his head in which caused the wing to dip, causing a cartwheel then the pilot would have brought it down nicely...


perhaps.. your right that was the Ethiopian hijacking. Still its very good that he managed to land safely on water in such a controlled manner.

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