Yeah i seen the video a while back and thought the same thing, such a big space and everything is piled into the corner

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Ok... Now I have listen bit of Deadmau5's song (The Reward Is...).
I don't think the bass sounds SO amazing there?
Typical electro/tech bass that is used in many songs now'a'days, right?

No, I'm not saying it was bad, or lame... I just didn't think it was anything that special. Or maybe it just wasn't my style of music

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Since this thread has turned into train wreck, I forgot you made this heart felt contribution to this thread already. What is interesting is that you acknowledge Deadmau5 has great sound, and probably have seen his youtube video of his Analogue synth filled studio, yet think he can get that sound with software or would use software to get that sound when he has a Analogue synth stockpile. Mind you, that video is old and now he probably has an even bigger stockpile of Analogue gear. And then another person in this thread came in talking about that stuff is just for show, he gets paid for advertising, he doesn't really use it that much lol, something along those lines. And then another dude comes in "its the way he magically turns the knobs, and changes parameters on software that makes the big sound happenz." No one else can do it, it takes 6 to 8 years to get big bass sounds. ROFL...trainwreck of funny comments in this thread. Deadmau5 must be wiping away laughter tears with popcorn at this point. Amidst all the funny, im here sharing objective evidence that might actually get the OP to the big sound hes looking for, and threw in a funny on the first page, sickazz contribution all around! Maybe if you guys get a hive mind going, you can defeat the evil objective evidence superpowahs!

No offense, but you are talking absolute nonsense. Forget youtibe vids and interviews - they are marketing bullshit designed to serve a purpose. There's already enough contradicting info in this thread to make you realise that.

You do not need analogue synths from the 1960's (etc) to make "Fat Bass" and I can't even begin to tell you the amount of tracks that are made with just softsynths, and don't suffer from "thin bass".

It's all about how you use them, and if you can;t get "fat bass" from a softsynth then you;re not doing it right, plain and simple. Bear in mind the amount of tracks that have been made with "fat bass" from a virus - that is analogue modelling, WHICH IS NOT ANALOGUE, just a processor telling software to pretend it's analogue.

on the other subject, I do actually believe the virus could easily be made in to a VST, without it crapping out the PC - I think the single only reason they don't make a vst is because they don't want to go the same way as their fellow german predeccesors (Waldorf) who basically went bust the moment they brought out a soft version of their synths (that sounded just as good as the real deal).

But...I CAN get good bass from softsynths, even though from a sound design and composition standpoint I avoid too much bass for basslines. Im just bein realistic towards what the Op is asking for, he wants Deadmau5 type bass, and although I agree with what Lana mentioned, some of his bass isn't that great when you consider the equipment he uses, the best bass you can possibly get comes from hardware equipment. You guys can debate against that all day, but everything i've said in this thread is pretty much the truth, while you guys are holding onto either your pride or some false hope that softsynths = hardware in sound. Softsynths have their strengths over hardware too, but one of them is not really sound, and in a thread about where to get the best bass, the logical answer is get some good hardware synths, get a good analogue compressor and off you go, play around and you'll get some good bass.

BTW let me throw a feather in my hat, for the other thread about where to spend $3000. while some were talking up acoustics as absolutely essential place to spend money, Deadmau5 probably has the worste room to not have acoustics but still manages to have great sound quality. So like I said in the other thread, good hardware equipment, good compressors, LEARNING your mixing environment goes a longer way than acoustic treatment, which is important but the essentials should be taken care of and learned first before blowing money on acoustic treatment. Whoever was pushing acoustic treatment in that thread got owned by Kismet7 and Deadmau5. :P

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lol kismet, either you're a troll, or you've just skimmed through the posts here.. noone said he only had the hardware for show, what that person said was that when deadmau5 (or whoever) was asked in an interview "how did u do that bass? what did u use?" he said the name of a synth from the company who paid the most for him to say it.. its like if access paid you $1000 to say you used the TI for a certain popular bassline, even tho u used a minimoog, just so it could boost their sales.. get it now?

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Seriously, why do not you all focus less on what others are doing.

If you could make Deadmau5 bass you would be going at costume parties and occupying Beatport top 10.
Afaik there is only one guy doing that right now.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi lol kismet, either you're a troll, or you've just skimmed through the posts here.. noone said he only had the hardware for show, what that person said was that when deadmau5 (or whoever) was asked in an interview "how did u do that bass? what did u use?" he said the name of a synth from the company who paid the most for him to say it.. its like if access paid you $1000 to say you used the TI for a certain popular bassline, even tho u used a minimoog, just so it could boost their sales.. get it now?

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Correct.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi lol kismet, either you're a troll, or you've just skimmed through the posts here.. noone said he only had the hardware for show, what that person said was that when deadmau5 (or whoever) was asked in an interview "how did u do that bass? what did u use?" he said the name of a synth from the company who paid the most for him to say it.. its like if access paid you $1000 to say you used the TI for a certain popular bassline, even tho u used a minimoog, just so it could boost their sales.. get it now?

+100. Eaxactly, I too don't think you bothered to read this thread in it's entirety. In some circumstances, harware sounds better - I for really like the SE1X for some bassline types, but it's crap for others, so to say hardware is better is like saying paintbrushes is like saying oil paint is better for art than acrylic paint or water colours. I for instance use both hardware and software, so I'm not "holding on to my pride" - I actually work in a major studio for a living using equipment on a daily basis that most home studios can only dream of. Some poeple I work with use softsynths, some use hardware - it's just about preferences and the task in hand.

Oh and for the last time, STOP LOOKING AT VIDOES of producers in a studio and think that's exactly how they work. THE VIDEO IS THERE TO SERVE A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, maybe even to get you thinking "how does he monitor with his speakers set up so badly" or to make you think they use a specific piece of kit. It's often all just for marketing of a product and not the truth relating to how they actually produce. I've seen people giving tours of their studios and I know it's not even thiers!

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Originally posted by cryophonik I agree with pretty much everything you said, except this: Access does make a software version, the Virus Powercore. They've been selling them for years and it hasn't hindered sales of the hardware. But again, I reiterate my earlier statement: hardware isn't as much about the sound as it is about the experience and workflow. That's why Access can offer both a software and a hardware version - one for people who want the cost-effectiveness, convenience, and space-savings of a soft synth, the other for people who want the hands-on control; both for the Virus sound. OK, back on topic now.

No offense, but your hardware knob theory is bullshit.

Anyone can buy a midi controller and map their VSTi knobs for smoother hands on control.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby No offense, but your hardware knob theory is bullshit. Anyone can buy a midi controller and map their VSTi knobs for smoother hands on control.

It wont be the same thing.

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It wont be the same thing

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You would need several midi controllers to control all the functions the virus has. Even the mod routings alone would take up all the knobs on a standard midi controller.

Hardware is alot more portable for a live set up also.

You dont need a computer to use the virus hardware. with a vst you would.

etc, etc ,etc.

didnt read the whole thread but there's some mau5-ish bass in Nexus in the Bass section "TranceBass" presets 5, 8, and 12 if I remember correctly.

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