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Big Boss
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
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As fast as this guy rose, I think he's going to fade away just as fast.
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Apr-15-2009 02:17
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Elendil
Individuationist.

Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
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You know, he's a talented guy. However, when you lose touch with who and what you are producing music for, and furthermore, when you come to despise what you once loved, its only a matter of time until the separation is complete. However, I know exactly how that feels. I've been in a very similar position.
I know what you're saying Abercrombie. Joels cynacism is arrived at honestly. However, rather than simply becoming Jaded, he could very well steer his own ship and withdraw from what he despises, residing instead where he truly wants to live (career wise). Instead, he's externalizing the issues. We're the captains of our own ships, and he can simply withdraw from those places that he finds "disgusting". Otherwise, he only risks destroying his career and growing resentment.
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Apr-15-2009 12:03
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Elendil
Individuationist.

Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I doubt his career will die just like that, just as fast... He's got a bright future ahead of him, even though it won't be in EDM production... you can't work all your life pounding out hits in this musical field. It will be music, but in other areas, perhaps movie scores and sustainable musical fields where a sustainable living is possible on the long term. |
It definitely wouldn't be a quick death. Besides, he's been at this for years - his career has taken a long time to get to its point now. I know first hand, however, that the industry doesn't take extremely well to people it perceives as overly cynical.
The problem is that where his feelings are coming from is a genuine spot. I used to feel the same when back when I was in the rock business, and touring and what not. I thought of the whole thing as just a retarded, disgusting mess. However, in the way I dealt with things, it pissed a tonne of people off. Plus, nothing ever came off the way I intended, and by the way people make character judgments on this guy without even knowing him says the same thing is happening here. The old saying that "the people you meet on the way up are the same people you meet on the way down" comes to mind; if you aren't grateful for every bit of fortune that comes your way, then you will not receive said fortune for long.
Thats what I was getting at though; if he's growing jaded with the industry he's in, he should simply make an artistic choice and move on from it. The concretized ego does nothing but hinder the development of the self, which is the only reason to be working as an artist anyways. It's simply an externalized individuation pathway, no different than alchemy.
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If you enjoy music with depth - music that may spontaneously induce fantasies of distant realms, places, or states of being - you may enjoy the music on the following link. However, there is also a chance that you will be re-directed to a horrid vision that will claw away what remains of your dwindling childhood innocence. Are you willing to take that risk? I thought so... I thought so.
http://soundcloud.com/michaelandryan
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Apr-15-2009 18:39
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Abercrombie
myspace.com/ashesband
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Aurora Borealis
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Yeah, he could have just shut himself out from message boards, random freelance media calls at the beginning, but he's a normal guy and blows off steam like everyone. But he you want to talk to him about music, he'll chat, but if you want to talk BS, he'll tune out, because he learned to be careful about saying things. If you act like TMZ, well you know...
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Apr-15-2009 18:54
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SniFFleS
Suspended User
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto
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He's made a few decent tunes.
There is way better DJs to listen to in Toronto without all the extra fluff and norms deadmau5 brings though.
Some of you dudes must have a real hard on for him.
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Apr-16-2009 04:08
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