i think it depends on the producer
the tool is only as good as the person who uses it.

example.
2 major awards at the grammy's (i forget which) were produced in ableton

and the award for best movie sound track was also produced with ableton.

depends on your speakers
your knowledge and technique

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Originally posted by Subtle Just a question to you Abletoners, got nothing to do with the topic though. But how do one automate from the session view ? I can record automation and it ends up in the arrangement view just fine, but i want to transfer the automation from the arrangement and back into the session clips. I tried to consolidate the 4 bars of automation i wanted from the arrangement view and dragging it back into the session view, but the automation not playing then. Im trying to automate simpler in this case.

Look up ghost / dummy clips

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell The work around for this is to mixdown tracks written in Ableton in another program. I rewire Ableton into Logic and I am able to get that liquidy Logic sound while still reaping the benefits of the fast workflow of Ableton for my audio stuff. MIDI and effects processing is all done in Logic.

can you explain how you did this? i have tried to do such a thing but when you open Live as a a slave it disables all my audio units and vst's, hence half the stuff in my ableton set doesnt produce sound to send to Logic !

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I recently did a track and based it around some vinyl samples...

i work mostly in logic but know ableton pretty well and was more comfortable with warping in there, so i recorded all the sampled parts into ableton and warped and pitched them (using complex mode) straight in live.

when I was 90% done with the project and after noticing the samples had that trademark warp distortion (especially on the highs) etc. I decided to just take those same parts and redo them straight in logic to see if there was a difference.

Let me tell you, after doing this, the samples right away sounded 100% better and instantly fit in the mix much better as well.

Hopefully with 8 when they start using the 'pro' warp algorithm this issue will be cleared up, but for now im just sticking with logic.

Deadmau5 made a blog post one time about how Impulse changed the attack transient of kick drums, and he confirmed it with Steve Duda.

here it is http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?...logID=393775269

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https://soundcloud.com/ghostea stuff

Software Drum Machines suck in general. Get a real sampler, load the samples into there, and knock shit up.

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I think Ableton is one of the best at summing, second only to Logic's summing. Depending on what Zabiela and Schossow use for the actual summing, whether Ableton's or Analogue through a Console/Summing Mixer, if they use Ableton's, its very safe to say Ableton has a really good summing mixer, the stereo imaging is amazing and the sounds have a lot of space compared to what I've heard from other sequencers. My cousin uses Ableton, and even his mixes have a great image. If Ableton productions sound bad, its because people simply dont know how to use it, or dont know how to engineer sound and mix properly through it. Ableton's engine is truly great, and is the main reason why I would switch to it from the Cakewalk sequencer I use currently. Or i'll invest in a summing mixer or 16 Channel Midas or Toft console.

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ableton sounds bad coz it aint pro like cubase and logics.... also ppl dnt use enuff hardware with ableton........ whereas people on cubase and logics know that software suks....... fukn noobs LOL

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Originally posted by echosystm ableton sounds bad coz it aint pro like cubase and logics.... also ppl dnt use enuff hardware with ableton........ whereas people on cubase and logics know that software suks....... fukn noobs LOL

I hope your being sarcastic. If not, then your the noob.

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Originally posted by Lucidity I hope your being sarcastic. If not, then your the noob.

You're.

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Originally posted by Lucidity your the noob.

NO YOU ARE THE NOOB