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Originally posted by shadow_419 As far as I've seen, people with accents are still thinking in their first language more often than not. Even though they've been using a new language for years, their brains still think in their first language and that skews proper pronunciation.

good point, i never thought of that. however i think for the most part, no matter how many languages you speak, when you're thinking while having a conversation in whatever language, you're thinking in that language right?

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

Nope. I think in French all the time. Before I talk, before I write, while thinking of something, counting in my head regardless if I'm having a conversation in French or in English. Now that I'm learning Spanish I think in French as well..which really isn't helping.

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Originally posted by Slylee yea and you also asked why you would want to change your accent to blend with the country you're in, when the one you originally have helps get you laid. lol

It's called humour.

What you're suggesting is imitating an accent, not changing it. All I was trying to say that you just can't seem to understand is that it is very difficult to rid of your accent that comes from your first language influencing how you pronounce your second language. It is extremely unlikely to just drop your original accent, no matter how well you speak the foreign language (vocabulary and grammar- wise).

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Originally posted by Frenchie Nope. I think in French all the time. Before I talk, before I write, while thinking of something, counting in my head regardless if I'm having a conversation in French or in English. Now that I'm learning Spanish I think in French as well..which really isn't helping.

when i attempt to speak spanish (i know a little and have lots of spanish friends), i say it with a perfect spanish accent though. i'm always complimented on my accent and how well i can pronounce words in that language. i don't say it like a white person trying to talk spanish. and if i were to get so good at it that i was a fluent speaker, i would still speak it with that great pronounciation like the spanish people do...not like a white person does. like some guy saying, "hey there, done-day esta el banyo?" lol you see what i mean? i guess not everyone is good at picking up on accents of other languages.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee when i attempt to speak spanish (i know a little and have lots of spanish friends), i say it with a perfect spanish accent though. i'm always complimented on my accent and how well i can pronounce words in that language. i don't say it like a white person trying to talk spanish. and if i were to get so good at it that i was a fluent speaker, i would still speak it with that great pronounciation like the spanish people do...not like a white person does. like some guy saying, "hey there, done-day esta el banyo?" lol you see what i mean? i guess not everyone is good at picking up on accents of other languages.

I bet you anything that if you were having a full conversation, it would creep up with some words, word combinations and prosody (rhythm, intonation, volume, linguistics). It just happens, it's not intentional. Try recording yourself next time you speak in a foreign language, you'll see what I mean

well i think if i recorded myself saying things in spanish, a group of spanish people would have to be the judge of that lol not me.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

There is a difference between a strong accent and an accent.

The answer to your original question, Jamie, is never. Never. Never. Never. You will always have a Hispanic accent. Now if you're asking how long does it take to rid yourself of a strong accent, that is a different question altogether. It obviously varies.

Even if you don't speak the language fluently, you can still tell. It's helping me with improving my italian (and I don't speak it fluently yet).

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Originally posted by barbina why would she want to give it up? maybe she doesn't feel the need to assimilate and americanize her voice. her friends and family, ie. parents, siblings etc, may still speak spanish together too...ya never know

Exactly. What's the fucking point.

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Chaska is right. I've known a few people that can imitate accents very well, but when the conversation gets prolonged they couldn't hold it. A girl I knew in Louisiana, with a thick Southern accent, could totally pull off sounding like a native Spanish speaker as long as it wasn't more than a phrase or two at a time.