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Originally posted by Akridrot Are you serious? If CDs rapidly decline in popularity, Vinyl manufacturers are ramping up production, and the market shrinks, then essentially... vinyls will outsell CDs. We won't see platinum vinyls, but if most artists these days are not even going double construction paper with their CDs and a bunch of collectors are trying to bring back vinyl, then vinyl sales will surpass CDs. See my point? If 50,000 vinyls are bought compared to 30,000 CDs... then vinyls have outsold CDs.

Where you getting CD's at? I'm talking solid state devices mate. The masses are not going to buy vinyl. Only the DJ's/hardcore purists are. Record stores are all but vanishing. No way in hell vinyl production is being ramped up, lol.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Where you getting CD's at? I'm talking solid state devices mate. The masses are not going to buy vinyl. Only the DJ's/hardcore purists are. Record stores are all but vanishing. No way in hell vinyl production is being ramped up, lol.

Well... instead of going back and forth about what format is going to be popular, what do you think is going to happen to the market for physical formats as time goes on?

Sales just aren't what they used to be. If you want to talk minimalism and saving space, then the ideal isn't buying an actual record but buying the digital copy. These days, it's likely that people won't even buy that.

I don't see this as a bad thing. Music isn't a product in my mind, so I don't really care.

The good artists will receive financial support, that I'm sure of. So music will become more competitive... survival of the best. Or we'll begin to see musicians who fund records with their own money and do it for the love of music... a completely alien, but possible concept.

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Originally posted by Akridrot Well... instead of going back and forth about what format is going to be popular, what do you think is going to happen to the market for physical formats as time goes on? Sales just aren't what they used to be. If you want to talk minimalism and saving space, then the ideal isn't buying an actual record but buying the digital copy. These days, it's likely that people won't even buy that. I don't see this as a bad thing. Music isn't a product in my mind, so I don't really care. The good artists will receive financial support, that I'm sure of. So music will become more competitive... survival of the best. Or we'll begin to see musicians who fund records with their own money and do it for the love of music... a completely alien, but possible concept.

Exactly...media is headed in the digital only realm, and especially since no one is buying cd's/vinyl (or much of anything with the world economy in the toilet). I personally love vinyl, but these days I prefer all my media in digital format because the quality is always there, nothing can get scratched/destroyed, and the devices that play the media are super fast. Only issue is now we have to worry about our HDD's dying and losing the media, but the future is solid state drives, like a USB flash drive. No more mechanical failures, and speeds are drastically increased as well. Another important issue I really like is it is so easy to have a huge collection of movies, music, pictures, etc and it can be so easily organized in nay way you want and is found is seconds. Vinyl drives me crazy in that respect, hehe.

We should all illegally download stuff from the artists/labels that we hate and send them broke.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien We should all illegally download stuff from the artists/labels that we hate and send them broke.

That would probably have the complete opposite effect, but don't tell the labels that!

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I wish I could buy directly from the artists themselves. Maybe we'll get there eventually. With that said, there's no way the artists can both focus on creating great music, and the headache of marketing yourself to the masses....or can they with the ease of the internet??

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY I wish I could buy directly from the artists themselves. Maybe we'll get there eventually. With that said, there's no way the artists can both focus on creating great music, and the headache of marketing yourself to the masses....or can they with the ease of the internet??

+1 on buying directly from them without the whack MAFIAA distribution bullshit.

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien We should all illegally download stuff from the artists/labels that we hate and send them broke.

Yeah, thats the whole point.

So this is great:

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Downloading music and CD purchases Number of paid and free downloads of music and on CD purchasing is now available in a new population survey on cultural consumption in times of crisis at the Norwegian School of Management. 6 of 10 (58% percent) of people have purchased a CD or more during the period May-November 2008, and they buy on average 5.1 CDs. 50 percent of 15-20 year old buy their music via paid download, and like many have bought at least one CD in the last six months. - It is interesting that those under 20 years buying as much music as the physical digital format, and perhaps a surprise to many that teenagers actually still buy CDs, "says høyskolelektor Audun Molde at the Norwegian School of Management. How does the CD-purchase to paid and free downloading of music? Buyer large consumers of downloading fewer or more CD's than those who do not use the download? Is paid or free download, most used? These questions have Professor Anne-Britt Gran, together with his research team at the Department of Communication - Culture and language, BI found the answer to.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel So this is great: Source

Well, that's Norway.

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Wikipedia Norwegians enjoy the second highest GDP per-capita (after Luxembourg) and third highest GDP (PPP) per-capita in the world.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Exactly...media is headed in the digital only realm, and especially since no one is buying cd's/vinyl (or much of anything with the world economy in the toilet).

I don't think vinyl is going to completely disappear. There will always be those collectors and purists who simply feel some connection to the physical format. It's not like old farts are only buying it. Young people, too.

Wholly digital world scares me.

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Originally posted by netroM Well, that's Norway.

I am aware.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.