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| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
i do plan on reading it - going to check it out from the university library tomorrow.
look, i don't agree with people using baffling occurrences as proof of ANYTHING. I am quite a skeptic myself. However, I happen to also be skeptical of the ultimate reality of the material world. |
I'm not sure why you're so keen to push that skepticism. I wasn't replying to you or directing my first post at you in any way whatsoever. It was mainly directed to Nukleuz, who seemed to have been a bit spooked by what this clairvoyant seemed to know. It's a trick called cold reading, which Derren Brown can do and which he details somewhat in the book.
| quote: | | I wish you'd stop using the word 'spiritual' like this. I personally only use the word to mean something like 'undiscovered science'. I believe everything can and will be understood as a scientific phenomenon - eventually, though it may require the suspension of certain crystallized beliefs. |
Again, I'm not really concerned with your views. When I said "your perspective on spirituality", that included your distaste for the term. I'm not pushing materialism-as-truth in any way, and you seem to be quite insecure over the issue to assume I am.
For what it's worth I'm agnostic, and I strongly believe that assuming observable reality to be a totality is hubris. But I'm also a realist and I take what's available to me, which is observable reality. I don't think it's a complete view of reality, but neither do I use its limitations to begin inventing "undiscovered science" frameworks that are based entirely on inductive reasoning.
With that said, I don't want to argue with you at all. If you want to introduce hypothetical frameworks, good for you. I was never addressing you or your beliefs in this thread.
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