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Zak McKracken
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when rendering in reason at 44.1kHz it recomends me to "dither". The option falls away when rendering at 48kHz. Does it mean 48kHz is the native working frequency in the code of the synths etc?

edit: lol it was wrong. its when selecting 24bit the dither option goes away. now i dont know what dither is anymore....

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Originally posted by palm
now i dont know what dither is anymore....


Taken straight from the Ableton Live manual

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Dither Options: If you are rendering at a bit depth lower than 32-bit, choose one of the dither modes. Dithering adds a small amount of noise to rendered audio, but minimizes artifacts when reducing the bit depth. By default, Triangular is selected, which is the "safest" mode to use if there is any possibility of doing additional processing on your file. Rectangular mode introduces an even smaller amount of dither noise, but at the expense of additional quantization error. The three Pow-r modes offer successively higher amounts of dithering, but with the noise pushed above the audible range. Note that dithering is a procedure that should only be applied once to any given audio file. If you plan to do further rocessing on your rendered file, it’s best to render to 32-bit to avoid the need for dithering at this stage. In particular, the Pow-r modes should never be used for any material that will be sent on to a further mastering stage - these are for fnal output only


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Whenever rendering audio to a lower bit depth, it is a good idea to apply dithering in order to minimize artifacts. Dithering (a kind of very low-level noise) is inherently a non-neutral procedure, but it is a necessary evil when lowering the bit resolution. Please note that Live’s internal signal processing is all 32-bit, so applying even a single gain change makes the resulting audio 32-bit as well - even if the original audio is 16- or 24-bit. Dither should never be applied more than once to any given audio file, so unless you are mastering and finalizing in Live, it is best to always render at 32-bit and avoid dithering altogether.


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derail
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Originally posted by Domesticated
What are you talking about? A waveform is a perfectly good way of representing audio. The 'up-down' you speak of is the pressure variations experienced in the air and thus such a diagram is a direct representation of the sound's physical form.


Yes, it is a good representation, but it's not the way the sound actually moves through air - a sine wave doesn't look like an image of a sine wave if you could actually see it. Instead of up-down it's more in-out. Kinda like a slinky.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
If you record (say a vocal or violin) with a great mic (i.e. u49), a pristine signal path in to class A converters, at 192k, then playback through excellent studio monitors in a pro environment I guarantee you need your ears checked if you don't hear the perceived improvement in quality over the exact same setup but done at 44.1.

Did you perform a double-blind test? I wonder just how much you're willing to put behind that guarantee.


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