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Originally posted by Rose This.

um, so we totally discount this:

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence You know, I agree. But the last time I went to San Francisco, which is a dirty city with lots of dirty people, I got separated from my girlfriends. This was in daytime. I didn't have my cell (it broke weeks before) and I couldn't find a pay phone. It seems pay phones are no longer needed cuz every one has a cell. Haha to those of us who don't have cells, huh?

Sigh.

Whatever. One day we all will be mothers to boys. I know what I will teach mine. What you ladies teach yours is up to you.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence You're a bit older and hopefully more mature and probably less trusting than a 16 year old who had just been raped would be... ffs, people, show some compassion.

lol when i was 7 years old, i knew better than that.

look obviously it's a horrible thing that happened to her but give me a fucking break. she's 16 years old (probably wasn't a virgin) walking around the streets of chicago at 1 in the morning and gets in some dude's car....lol i'm sorry but there's only limited feelings of sympathy from me.

how would you feel if some young mother was barely paying attention to her kid while having a party or something and the kid fell in the pool and drowned? or the kid was playing with someone's dog and the dog bit the baby in the face?

that's the same kind of stupid decision making (or lack there of) if you ask me. every young girl knows better than to get in a strange guy's car at night.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

She was walking around Southside Chicago... at 230am? Southside Chicago, an extremely dangerous part of the US...

-sighs and shakes head-

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Originally posted by ziptnf I probably wake up QWOPing.

The first rapist released her. I guess he didn't care if she was walking around southside Chicago at 230am. We'll spank him, okay?

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence The first rapist released her. I guess he didn't care if she was walking around southside Chicago at 230am. We'll spank him, okay?

i'm not saying at all that the rapist deserves a slap on hand or anything, i was just focusing on the victim and how i don't feel sorry for her.

a rapist is a rapist. nothing changes the fact that he's a piece of shit who belongs in jail, but she is also a dumb bitch who had it coming.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

She's 16 ffs. Not 6. Throw her ass in jail so that stupidity does not reproduce.

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Originally posted by Renzo She's 16 ffs. Not 6. Throw her ass in jail so that stupidity does not reproduce.

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Originally posted by Slylee i'm not saying at all that the rapist deserves a slap on hand or anything, i was just focusing on the victim and how i don't feel sorry for her. a rapist is a rapist. nothing changes the fact that he's a piece of shit who belongs in jail, but she is also a dumb bitch who had it coming.

People keep harping on the fact that she's on the streets of Chicago alone at 230. Well, from what I read the first rapist released her so yeah, now she's on the streets of Chicago at 230. Unfortunately, we couldn't send him a pm and ask him to hold her til, maybe, 7am?

I don't think any woman "has it coming."

Because she makes really bad choices, she has it coming? That's the same as saying the rape is acceptable or allowable or permissible and it's not.

Not not not. Never ever.

I know what you guys are saying but I don't like the way you say it. I think there's a fine line and you're crossing it. It's important for the girls and boys we one day raise, not to cross the fine line.

But I'm tired of discussing this. I'm different, I'm okay with that.

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it's important that the boys and girls we raise one day know better than to get in the car with a stranger at night lol


answer my question before about the mother being negligent with her child. you wouldn't feel so bad for her would you?

when you make an obvious dumb decision and suffer consequences, i don't feel that sorry for you, that's all we're saying. no one is excusing rape, but rape is real and out there and happens regularly and any girl with a half a brain and self respect would never get into the car of a strange man, i don't give a shit what he said to her. you're setting up the perfect scenerio to be raped or killed, etc...

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee it's important that the boys and girls we raise one day know better than to get in the car with a stranger at night lol answer my question before about the mother being negligent with her child. you wouldn't feel so bad for her would you? when you make an obvious dumb decision and suffer consequences, i don't feel that sorry for you, that's all we're saying. no one is excusing rape, but rape is real and out there and happens regularly and any girl with a half a brain and self respect would never get into the car of a strange man, i don't give a shit what he said to her. you're setting up the perfect scenerio to be raped or killed, etc...

Didn't your parents teach you not to smoke? Smoking is bad.

Didn't your parents teach you not to do drugs? Drugs are bad?

Don't have sex without protection? You'll get stds, pregnant, aids...

Don't talk to strangers?

Now.

Most of us smoke cigarettes at some time or another. We deserve to get cancer and die?

Most of us use drugs at some time or another. We deserve whatever happens to druggies (I wasn't paying attention to this lecture).

Most of us have had sex without protection...so we deserve stds, pregnancies, aids...

Most of us have talked to strangers...

It's just ridiculous.

Of course she shouldn't get in a car with someone she doesn't know. Who the fuck knows what condition she was in before she got in that car? Who cares?

This is ridiculous.

If you guys think she deserved to be raped...lol, okay. Fine. I quit the argument.

I think no girl, no woman "deserves" to be raped.

Doesn't matter what she wears. Doesn't matter what she does.

She doesn't "deserve" to be raped.

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smoking and doing drugs are bad choices that you are doing to yourself by choice.

walking around the streets and getting in the car with strangers is putting yourself in a situation where you might very soon NOT have control or a choice over anything (rape).


wanna try again? lol

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee smoking and doing drugs are bad choices that you are doing to yourself by choice. walking around the streets and getting in the car with strangers is putting yourself in a situation where you might very soon NOT have control or a choice over anything (rape). wanna try again? lol

You don't know what time she was walking the streets and getting into the car with the first stranger.

You really don't even know that he was a stranger.

All you know is she got in a car and the guy raped her.

Then he released her and she was again walking the streets of Chicago, this time in bad shape we surmise because she had already been raped, at 230am.

Smokers don't have control or choice over getting cancer or emphesema.

You think all people who use drugs or have sex without adequate protection are in control?

Seriously, this is ceasing to amuse me and starting to annoy me.

I agree to have a different opinion than everyone else in the world.

How's that?

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