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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, but i think as standards of living increase and costs naturally follow, foreign countries become less appealing. not to mention the increase in IR legislation as a country modernises. i think companies enjoy the horribly lax protections offered to workers in most of the developing world. the marxist in me finds it amusing to see the levels of extreme love for capitalism (as shown by citizens of the country who shall remain nameless), yet scores of companies outgrow the *nameless country's* brand of capitalism and relocate to where they are better able to exploit workers. the obvious irony being of course that many of these chosen countries were meant to be 'worker's paradises', lols. "[capitalism] is the worst form of...[economic organisation], except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." me bastardising churchill's famous quote. i dont quite understand the market masturbation sessions we see in here from time to time.

Yeah, sadly the gini coefficient has not been indicative of a decreasing wealth gap as a result of the last 15 years in India. On the contrary actually, things have become increasingly more unequal. If you head to Bangalore, the new glass buildings of the tech boom initially make you think the entire country may begin to be catching up to western standards of living, but right down the street the slums are the EXACT same as 15 years ago. The fact that these tech-support people speak english, are literate, and have computer access puts them into a very elite percentile of Indians, they are relatively well off. In fact, to be able to practice your english all day is gold to them.

Even though India's problems (the inequality is a deeper rooted issue) will be far from over, an osmosis of employment is definitely a natural progression. And like you said, when it is not feasible anymore, operations will move elsewhere. BTW, rents in India are already sky high for the developing world's standards, it is mostly their low telecommunications costs that is their selling point at the moment.

This is something we can only watch and see how it plays out in the future. The last 30 years of economic theory are hazy at best with the onset of this crisis.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i love the kiwi accent too. its one of the few that's worse than ours!

I had sushi for lunch today, and the people sitting behind us were OCKA (is that how it's spelled?).

My gf said "that chick behind us sounds like Pauline Hanson"

It's a horrible sound.

Horrible.

To make myself feel better, I'm just going to post this....

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi Yeah, sadly the gini coefficient has not been indicative of a decreasing wealth gap as a result of the last 15 years in India. On the contrary actually, things have become increasingly more unequal. If you head to Bangalore, the new glass buildings of the tech boom initially make you think the entire country may begin to be catching up to western standards of living, but right down the street the slums are the EXACT same as 15 years ago. The fact that these tech-support people speak english, are literate, and have computer access puts them into a very elite percentile of Indians, they are relatively well off. In fact, to be able to practice your english all day is gold to them. Even though India's problems (the inequality is a deeper rooted issue) will be far from over, an osmosis of employment is definitely a natural progression. And like you said, when it is not feasible anymore, operations will move elsewhere. BTW, rents in India are already sky high for the developing world's standards, it is mostly their low telecommunications costs that is their selling point at the moment. This is something we can only watch and see how it plays out in the future. The last 30 years of economic theory are hazy at best with the onset of this crisis.

well said.

edit: oh, and fucken lol. that was horrible sushi!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yes, they are. when watching britain's got talent, nobody in australia (or any other part of the world) needed subtitles for susan boyle. the fact you don't appreciate the levels of insularity in your society just proves my point. which is why indian and south-east asian call centre employees undergo huge training sessions to americanise their speech, so americans can understand them. completely missing the point. you're throwing all the blame at employees in foreign call centres, (because you know, its really easy to change the way you speak a language you've spoken your whole life) rather than the american companies that outsource all their labor costs. oh please. these poverty-ravaged countries know far more about the value of work and taking pride in their job than your entitlement-ravaged, insular and hugely ignorant collection of consumers.

Can't wait to jump into this when I get back from work...

i thought i made it clear that i don't have a problem with indian people or the culture, food, etc... ?

in fact, i'd like to visit india some day. i'm usually pretty good at understanding any accent but i'm always stumped when talking to an indian person. it's really hard to understand for me and when i have to call a company because of a mistake they made and i am forced to talk to someone from india, it pisses me off.


i had to call the Quickbooks number recently for some tech support...got an indian person with a REALLY strong accent. and not only that, but if i decided to get tech support from her, it was going to cost $85 (one time fee). even after spending HUNDREDS of dollars on a program, we still have to pay money to talk to someone in fucking india?

yea i'm a fucking moron again pkc aren't i? i'm such a fucking idiot because i was venting about something completely legitimate that even you yourself are admitting to be frustrated with.

are you ever going to get off my case? i mean there are some people on this site who annoy me and i can't stand them, but the last thing in the world i'm gonna do is read allt heir posts and pick them apart and constantly bicker with them. lol

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee i thought i made it clear that i don't have a problem with indian people or the culture, food, etc... ? in fact, i'd like to visit india some day. i'm usually pretty good at understanding any accent but i'm always stumped when talking to an indian person. it's really hard to understand for me and when i have to call a company because of a mistake they made and i am forced to talk to someone from india, it pisses me off. i had to call the Quickbooks number recently for some tech support...got an indian person with a REALLY strong accent. and not only that, but if i decided to get tech support from her, it was going to cost $85 (one time fee). even after spending HUNDREDS of dollars on a program, we still have to pay money to talk to someone in fucking india? yea i'm a fucking moron again pkc aren't i? i'm such a fucking idiot because i was venting about something completely legitimate that even you yourself are admitting to be frustrated with. are you ever going to get off my case? i mean there are some people on this site who annoy me and i can't stand them, but the last thing in the world i'm gonna do is read allt heir posts and pick them apart and constantly bicker with them. lol

You have a simply marvellous skill of missing the point entirely. You do it in every thread.

Pkc was saying that it's YOU with the problem, not the Indian on the other end. It's the insular American brain that has a serious problem understanding even the simplest of accents.

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Originally posted by Domesticated You have a simply marvellous skill of missing the point entirely. You do it in every thread. Pkc was saying that it's YOU with the problem, not the Indian on the other end. It's the insular American brain that has a serious problem understanding even the simplest of accents.

lol

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee yea i'm a fucking moron again pkc aren't i?

i think i have gone to great lengths to say nothing of the sort. im sorry if you thought that's what i was saying, it wasn't.

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Originally posted by bas

Isn't that fucking funny?!

Sometimes I worry about the state of my mind because I find shit like that so funny.......


Oh, and I like Indian people/accents/my helpdesk.

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Originally posted by Ygrene Isn't that fucking funny?! Sometimes I worry about the state of my mind because I find shit like that so funny....... Oh, and I like Indian people/accents/my helpdesk.

yea well no body fucking asked you

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone