narr man i dont mind paying it you get warranties and all that.. i will claim it on tax anyways

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Originally posted by johncannons1 narr man i dont mind paying it you get warranties and all that.. i will claim it on tax anyways

thats cool i just pm'd you as well. what model you gona get TI2

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Granular is not a form of additive synthesis, and while FM technically is, an FM synth has a very different architecture than an additive synth.

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Granular synthesis is a basic sound synthesis method that operates on the microsound time scale. It is often based on the same principles as sampling but often includes analog technology. The samples are not used directly however, they are split in small pieces of around 1 to 50 ms in length, or the synthesized sounds are very short. These small pieces are called grains. Multiple grains may be layered on top of each other

Granular is technically additive synthesis also. An organ is technically additive synthesis.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja Granular is technically additive synthesis also.

"Layering" doesn't automatically mean "additive synthesis."

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An organ is technically additive synthesis.

Of course.

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Originally posted by Energy_3 oi john, tell me what you want i get it for you in the states seriously save you some money god damm thats alot to spend plenty of older models here in the states bud half or less that amount! I just picked up a novation a station for 170US which is cheap considering what you would pay for that in Australia.

oh lets see, i'll send you a pm as soon as i put it up

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Originally posted by johncannons1 narr man i dont mind paying it you get warranties and all that.. i will claim it on tax anyways

do what energy said mate, you'll be saving at least 4-500 hundred.. it's what i did (but got mine from novamusik.com)...

had to pay shipping tax which was bullshit... if energy will send it to you... DO IT!

pretty sure warranty still applies, or if it messes up you could just send it back to energy and he could apply for it lol...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Layering" doesn't automatically mean "additive synthesis."

I think it does.. do you not consider the human voice to be subtractive synthesis either? Most people do.

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LMFAO at some of the responses in this thread. Where can I get some of the meth being smoked here?

It's pretty clear who here has actually used a Virus. Some may not feel it's worth the price tag, but believe me if you have one sitting on your desk you'll likely use little other than it.

Yes VSTs blah blah are great blah blah. FFS I use Ableton and a lot of my sounds come from an Operator-driven instrument rack, but that said, when it's time for the real meat and potatoes you look to the Virus; otherwise you're just sending a boy, or perhaps a barely-post-pubescent adolescent to do a man's job.

The virus is capable of sounds that I guarantee you, nor anyone else has heard in their entire lives. Those sounds may not necessarily work in a trance production, but to claim that there's some sort of "virus sound" that you can immediately recognize is a down-right idiotic thing to say. Perhaps you can immediately recognize the over-used Manuel Schleiss rom bank instantly, but if you think that's all this beast is good for then you're clueless.

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh believe me if you have one sitting on your desk you'll likely use little other than it.

Well you'd hardly spend all that money on something and just leave it sitting there gathering dust would you?
I think thats maybe one of the reasons people get good sounds out of it. Theyve spent a lot of dosh on it so they stick with it and are determined to learn it and make good sounds with it.
Whereas a VST instrument can be had a lot cheaper and forgotten about it when the next new thing comes along.

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i dont like virus, theres nothing more to discuss.
if others like it then good for them.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja I think it does.. do you not consider the human voice to be subtractive synthesis either? Most people do.

"Additive synthesis" connotes using simple waveforms in a specified mathematical relation to a fundamental frequency to build up a more complex sound, not simply throwing random sounds on top of each other. I guess you can consider any layering to be "additive synthesis" in a crude sense, though. I don't consider granular to be mainly additive because the unique sonic character of granular synth sounds results from the stretching, condensing, frequency shifting, etc. of the grains, not from simple layering.