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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler

I've been argueing for a while it's all about hard work and persistence, but what realy confuses me is there is this guy on anjunabeats forum that has been signed and is making good stuff that says he's only be into this for a year. That one plays on my mind all the time.

Why? Well because I am obsessive, I mean unhealthly obsessive and spend hours every night, no matter what honing my tune - I mean listening to a 4 bard loop for 3 hours straight, tweaking. I spend about 20 hours every weekend too.

I'm sometimes feeling almost insane with my quest and wonder if it really has to be this hard, or there is something fundamental Im doing wrong.

So reading boomjinx' post just came as quite a relief, that I'm not wasting my time.

Now here's the thing. A shitty label wanted to sign me for 5 tracks a year ago but I turned it down as I just knew my sound was'nt right.

So I've been on this incredibly frustrating journey, and have a lonmg way to go.

Do people think some 'priducers' get signed but are'nt all that?


It seems to me that the majority of your problem is that you seem to be obsessed with getting signed and are over-emphasizing what it means. Getting signed to an EDM label is not a very high hurdle and does not validate one as a great musician or producer. My advice would be to stop thinking about getting signed and worrying about people with less experience who are getting signed, and focus that energy on your music instead. And, when it comes to getting critiques from your peers, understand that you aren't obligated to listen to their advice, even if they are signed. Make music that you like, always strive to be better, and learn to know when YOU are satisfied with your track. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to make everyone else happy (because it will never happen) or focusing on getting signed. Just keep focusing on your music and working to improve with each new track and, with the amount of time that you're dedicating, you'll develop your own style and have label-worthy tracks in no time.

Sorry, back OT!


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
you said "coke would explain my statement"

still dont know what the fuck u talk about.

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RichieV
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you posted this

"coke would explain my statement (or postulate really). maybe im just think that everyones loosers."

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Zak McKracken
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lol i know what i said but what the fuck do you mean? coke could explain why people with success at young age doesnt last. what does that have to do with a supposed addiction of mine? you think i use coke? haha yeah right, drugs are for loosers.

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Mr.Mystery
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lol i know what i said but what the fuck do you mean? coke could explain why people with success at young age doesnt last. what does that have to do with a supposed addiction of mine? you think i use coke? haha yeah right, drugs are for loosers.

Yeah, your spelling indicates a crack habit rather than coke.


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Zak McKracken
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, your spelling indicates a crack habit rather than coke.

not according to firefox

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Beatflux
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler


Do people think some 'priducers' get signed but are'nt all that?


You really have to dig around in beatport to find something good in the trance section.


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RichieV
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quote:
Originally posted by SDM
lol i know what i said but what the fuck do you mean? coke could explain why people with success at young age doesnt last. what does that have to do with a supposed addiction of mine? you think i use coke? haha yeah right, drugs are for loosers.


well your statement was pretty easy to misinterpret. You aren't very coherent and the admission to being a coke head made sense at the time. My bad.

Not that I would ever encourage drug use but you are in the wrong scene to have such a definitive stance on drugs. Everyone dancing to your music will be on drugs which makes one wonder why pursue something that only losers listen to ?

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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
It seems to me that the majority of your problem is that you seem to be obsessed with getting signed and are over-emphasizing what it means. Getting signed to an EDM label is not a very high hurdle and does not validate one as a great musician or producer. My advice would be to stop thinking about getting signed and worrying about people with less experience who are getting signed, and focus that energy on your music instead. And, when it comes to getting critiques from your peers, understand that you aren't obligated to listen to their advice, even if they are signed. Make music that you like, always strive to be better, and learn to know when YOU are satisfied with your track. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to make everyone else happy (because it will never happen) or focusing on getting signed. Just keep focusing on your music and working to improve with each new track and, with the amount of time that you're dedicating, you'll develop your own style and have label-worthy tracks in no time.

Sorry, back OT!


good advice right there


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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
Not that I would ever encourage drug use but you are in the wrong scene to have such a definitive stance on drugs. Everyone dancing to your music will be on drugs which makes one wonder why pursue something that only losers listen to ?

seriously im not in a scene at all. i make edm for myself beacuse i just love the music. and i listen to edm for myself or with friends beacuse i enjoy it, it sets me in a good mood. i use to go to trance and techno parties and getting drunk before but stopped it as i found it alot nicer to go places where ur able to talk with your friends or meet normal people. also i rarely meet people with the same tastes in music as me but i sometimes see them here on TA. and i seriously doubt that any drughead would dance to the music i make.

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RichieV
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Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by SDM
seriously im not in a scene at all. i make edm for myself beacuse i just love the music. and i listen to edm for myself or with friends beacuse i enjoy it, it sets me in a good mood.



quote:
Originally posted by SDM

Also of course u need to have some fucking experience in a club before making a bomb track! Not that many have that before the age of 20. And this is probably the catalyst of your desire to produce for many. The first experience at a 8000 people crowd going mental to the beat.



you just contradicted yourself

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Microlab
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Registered: Jul 2008
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Re: Skill vs Talent

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Here's something I just came across on Boom Jinx myspace. Think what you will of his music, but he's damn good at what he does when you take away biased opinions on music and just focus on what he's trying to achieve. Also seems extremely down to earth and just reading this one blog from 2 years ago (amongst the others) actually made me want to jump back in the chair and make some music. Take a couple of minutes to read it and hopefully it may kick start someone or give another person that little extra push to finish a masterpiece


http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?...logId=295174963


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