because knowledge is power!

that was so the place for it.

Honestly though Karim, I know people here and seeing north america, it would be so easy for them to eat out every single day on not a lot of money and on total junk. It's a shame because when i went to both the stores & farmers market, i could live just on that fresh produce alone, with only a slight urge for fast food if i was in a rush. Most of the places smelled awful and looked greasy, although we did find one good cafe-type chain that did an awesome burger which actually resembled the minced beef it came from!

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, Karim, junk food is cheaper. Therefore, the less money you have, the more you need to rely on it... and, consequently, the fatter you get.

That doesn't really follow.

Weight gain is a relatively simple matter of caloric intake versus expenditure. If the foods most economically available to you happen to be particularly calorie-dense, as is the case for the poor here in the west, then you can simply consume less of them, saving money while still still staving off hunger.

Those with such a surplus of resources that they can afford to waste money by purchasing a greater quantity of food than they need can hardly claim to fall into the category of people who cannot afford their basic needs. In such a case, providing them with even more resources that they can squander with their inefficient behavior seems to me to be an act of dubious value.

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, Karim, junk food is cheaper. Therefore, the less money you have, the more you need to rely on it... and, consequently, the fatter you get.

Is junk food or food that is not good for you really cheaper? Bags of chips, boxes of cookies, and processed foods are all quite expensive. Fresh veggies and fresh fruits are not expensive if you buy what's in season; at least in California this is true. I never bought groceries at home. Maybe fresh veggies and fruits are so much less expensive in California because they are grown nearby?

I think even fresh fish is less expensive than processed meat such as hot dogs.

<3 to Theresa in this thread.

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Some of you talk of changing individual behaviour like it's as simple as flipping a light switch. When in reality, you can't change individual behaviour without changing the world that we live in. Not the type of people we're talking about, anyway.

It's easy for advantaged people of relatively sound mind and body, with strong social supports and decent socioeconomic status to make such change...because we have the necessary resources and have grown up with a different lifestyle. Whereas the type of people we're talking about typically come from a long line of shit upbringing, shit support systems, shit coping skills, etc. When that's all you've ever known and you are constantly bombarded with different images of what it means to be happy, it's a lot harder to "just appreciate what you've got".

Honestly I think some of you need to get out more, lol. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter and put your money where your mouth is.

That all went without saying.

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Really, Hal? Go fuck yourself.

Uh-ohh, where's Slylee to quote your post and :stongue your shit? OH GOD WHAT DO

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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
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Hey Hal, don't you work at a Hotel reservations desk or some shit? I certainly hope you never made fun of Jamie for that.

No, actually, I had nothing but relative things to talk to her about when it comes to hotels. I don't look down upon people for their profession, mostly because there's not much beneath me.

But it's sort of interesting how you try to get at me for that when you are constantly harassed on here for changing bedpans for a living. I know it's not true, but you're the last person I'd expect to subscribe to that sort of horseshit.

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That wasn't what I was trying to do. But I appreciate your perception of things.

Ah, so you were just checking, then? Yep, no problems here, boss.

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I'm glad everything is copacetic.