Originally posted by PivotTechno
Oh, but it can. The government that would regulate the use of motorised vehicles in the interest of environmental preservation is not the same as the one that's currently in place, in any country.
Elections are a joke in their current form - intentional government inactivity (show me real progress, please) has led to ridiculous levels of voter apathy, ensuring that the usual small contingent keeps their interests firmly at the forefront.
Our technology truly makes us a global community. But these technologies, and the companies that manufacture and utilise them, have been allowed to operate relatively unchecked pretty much since the advent of the industrial era, dictating policy to suit their needs as they go. Global community demands truly global policy that takes all of humanity and the planet into equal account - a world regulatory body that would hold that notion up to scrutiny with every consideration is the government that I'm referring to.
Until such a government comes into existence, people will continue to be seen as worth only $6 a week in return for endless backbreaking labour, and it will be perfectly acceptable for someone who meets and gladhands and sits in big, comfy chairs, greenlighting paperwork for a few hours a day, to make millions upon millions of times more in the same period of time.
Generally speaking, you're not exactly wrong... but this is like faulting one amoeba for being larger than another. Everyone gets eaten, eventually.
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May-04-2010 17:28
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Democracy doesn't work.
But it's the least worst form of government, apparently
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May-04-2010 17:44
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Lira
But it's the least worst form of government, apparently
Meritocracy is where it's at, bro.
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May-04-2010 17:48
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that is 12 blocks from my job - crazy shit.. indeed!
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May-04-2010 19:16
lücid
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i was walking through the Times Square subway station on Friday night and noticed a duffel bag sitting unaccompanied in an area where there weren't many people. i did my good deed and tracked down some cops to let them know about it. makes me wonder now if that was in any way related to the incident on Saturday night.
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Rational inquiry tells me that there is a longstanding precedent of governments out-and-out lying to their citizenry in order to exercise effective control over the population and to further their own narrow interests.
You see paranoia, I see a healthy level of warranted skepticism.
Anyone that frames the government in such unitary, “hive mind” terms doesn’t understand the first thing about how governments work (or don’t work). there’s also an incredible amount of difference between honest scepticism, “hmmmm, I wonder if the government have caught the right person regarding the failed bomb plot in times square” and stupid, naïve and immature viewpoints (devoid of all supporting evidence) “gee, maybe the government planted those bombs in time square”.
Indeed, doubting anything and everything the government says without any form of critical evaluation is no better than believing everything they say. There has to be some middle ground, unless its your position that “the government” always lies about everything (clearly a ridiculous viewpoint).
But that isn't how governments act in this day and age, like adversaries in public but shaking hands behind closed doors - is it? Everyone's working together toward the greater good, right?
And this must be the third or fourth time you’ve provided “evidence” completely irrelevant to the discussion. Tell me how this latest link substantiates your claim that “maybe” the government planted the times square bombs?
May-04-2010 23:06
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Generally speaking, you're not exactly wrong... but this is like faulting one amoeba for being larger than another. Everyone gets eaten, eventually.
Fuck you halcyon. Don’t lend this cretin’s shallow, generic analysis any credence. You know as well as I do that the situation is far more complex and not nearly as black and white as this hippy buffoon is attempting to illustrate.
