As has already been mentioned, the kids who wore these t-shirts were purposely trying to incite disrupt. That's why they wore it on this specific day. Especially in high school, for crying out loud, where immaturity is rampant and kids love to swing their cocks around. Metaphorically speaking.
I'm not necessarily of the belief that these students should have been sent home, but I will gladly defer to the school officials to do what they feel they must in order to preserve the peace. They are in a better position to do so than any of us.
May-08-2010 19:53
Konijn
Subverting Paradigms
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
So you argue that they're being assholes but then say that they should be allowed to be assholes in an academic setting. By this logic, students should be able to wear nothing but Speedos to school - because they would also be expressing themselves, freely.
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Originally posted by idoru
So children should be allowed to be assholes without getting punished? You're going to be one hell of a good parent.
they weren't exposing themselves or wearing anything innately offensive; they were just being obnoxious, which is their right en los estados unidos.
if anyone's to blame, it's the glib and clueless parents.
Originally posted by Renzo
I'm not necessarily of the belief that these students should have been sent home, but I will gladly defer to the school officials to do what they feel they must in order to preserve the peace. They are in a better position to do so than any of us.
Right.
Just because you have a first amendment right to free speech, for instance, doesn't mean you can get on the table and start shouting in the middle of class without being reprimanded or punished for being disruptive.
May-08-2010 20:34
EddieZilker
This is the dance.
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp
quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
they weren't exposing themselves or wearing anything innately offensive; they were just being obnoxious, which is their right en los estados unidos.
if anyone's to blame, it's the glib and clueless parents.
They weren't wearing t-shirts that said, "Go home to Mexico, you fucking spics!" but that was the message they were delivering. There isn't a school in America that would allow such an explicit pejorative. If you've bothered to read my other posts then you'd understand the case I was making specifically addressed the absence of a polemical argument. In the context of Cinco de Mayo, wearing such costumes has a very clear motive, not to simply flaunt their patriotism but to flaunt their patriotism in a context which makes it all-the-more offensive. The school which suspended the students recognized the message that was intended.
Registered: May 2006
Location: san jose.california
Stupid white kids.Thats all it is.But they were suspended because they were "insinuating" not because they were wearing Shirts with USA flags on them.
Its like this say for example on MLK day a bunch of white kids decide to bring a bucket of KFC and a watermelons for lunch that day. would they be suspended for eating chicken and watermelon?
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May-10-2010 05:20
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
No, they'd be mugged.
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May-10-2010 05:28
Moongoose
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia
And shot
And of course
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May-10-2010 06:37
DancingMonkey
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2007
Location: History
Cinco de mayo. How did my life culminate in me standing in a crowd of hispanic folk at work and being forced to watch a live mariachi band, after being told by my supervisor to go to a meeting and not to clock out? On a day when there was zero work and all everyone had been doing the previous two hours was standing around and talking? Why force me to come to work, do nothing for two hours, then endure no less than three live mariachi songs sung by fat mexican guys in ridiculous outfits strumming instruments they probably have no business touching? Had god chosen to punish me for some sin I committed or something? Would I ever get these 20 minutes of my life back again? I've got nothing against the mexican people or anything, but lets just say I didn't stay for the luncheon. I mean, as much as I enjoy hearing extremely annoying songs with lyrics in a language completely incomprehensible to me while eating cheap mexican food, I had better things to do. So I went home and played doodle jump. Good times.
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May-10-2010 08:57
woscar
Starstuff
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
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Originally posted by DancingMonkey
Cinco de mayo. How did my life culminate in me standing in a crowd of hispanic folk at work and being forced to watch a live mariachi band, after being told by my supervisor to go to a meeting and not to clock out? On a day when there was zero work and all everyone had been doing the previous two hours was standing around and talking? Why force me to come to work, do nothing for two hours, then endure no less than three live mariachi songs sung by fat mexican guys in ridiculous outfits strumming instruments they probably have no business touching? Had god chosen to punish me for some sin I committed or something? Would I ever get these 20 minutes of my life back again? I've got nothing against the mexican people or anything, but lets just say I didn't stay for the luncheon. I mean, as much as I enjoy hearing extremely annoying songs with lyrics in a language completely incomprehensible to me while eating cheap mexican food, I had better things to do. So I went home and played doodle jump. Good times.
And a bunch of people are being seriously naive here. Those kids weren't punished for "expressing their national heritage", they were punished for trying to start shit with the Mexicans.
Originally posted by woscar
And a bunch of people are being seriously naive here. Those kids weren't punished for "expressing their national heritage", they were punished for trying to start shit with the Mexicans.
+1
/end thread.
May-10-2010 23:10
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
Nobody in this thread knows if the kids were doing it to start a fight or if they commonly wore that shirt. You don't know the kid, you don't know the teacher. Everyone is assuming one way or another, though, which makes this story one gigantic Rorcharsh test for political alignment.
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nobody in this thread knows if the kids were doing it to start a fight or if they commonly wore that shirt. You don't know the kid, you don't know the teacher. Everyone is assuming one way or another, though, which makes this story one gigantic Rorcharsh test for political alignment.
Perhaps, but I still bet you halcyon’s balls that the guys didn’t accidentally coordinate their wardrobe for spic day.
