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Acid Circus
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

2 weeks I had a rough idea.
2 months I was getting very good.
6 months I was fully confident in my beat matching!
Now I don't even think about it, its like breathing.


As for the other points raised on this thread, my advice would be to never write down BPM's on your records. For one you are not being really skilled and are using mathematical formulae; two, you won't be able to mix anything else but your own records. I was spinning at a party and I had the crowd pumped, the next DJ wanted to keep the flow going so turned to me and said "Whats the BPM of this track?". I don't think he liked it when I laughed in his face!!! It also ruined the proposed back to back we had planned for later.

BPM counters, highly inaccurate and who needs them anyway? Beat matching is in my opinion the easiest part of mixing!

Advice for newbies, never ever aim for perfection, nobody can do it. Instead concentrate on getting it so close and tight that you only need to do one very small correction every 30 seconds. And learn how to make the most minute corrections quickly and cleanly, I don't touch the record once its moving, instead using pitch control to make small adjustments. This way there will not be an audible "bend" in the pitch, making it seem seamless.

Old Post Jul-30-2002 20:08  Scotland
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Sinonick
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: athens - greece

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It also ruined the proposed back to back we had planned for later.


what do you mean "back to back"?

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Old Post Jul-31-2002 22:49  Greece
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Dj Flesch
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Indianapolis, USA

I think it took me about 6-8 months to get beat matching down to the point where I could take a set and practice it enough so that I couldn't tell the beats were off when I listened to the recording on my headphones. I'm about 3 years into it now and I'm still learning a lot of things. I'm great on beatmatching, but there are so many more important things IMO than beatmatching. Beatmatching is one of the first things and most basic things that you can learn, but you don't NEED to beatmatch to mix if you can cut well... I think that song selection and phrase matching/knowing when to mix in, is more important than having the tracks beatmatched exactly. You can get around beatmatching by using effects like fading the bass on one track etc. You have to come close to the beats and the songs have to mix very well, but you don't have to have them exact.

As far as cheating, there is no cheating because the point is to get the crowd hyped up, while sounding good. Beatmatching is, as I said, the very basic of dj skills, and so the less time you have to spend doing that the better. Whether you do this by putting BPMs on the records/cds, recording the tracks at a certain bpm, using a meter or even auto mixing them with some of the pioneer technology that is out there, it doesn't matter. Because now you can spend more time on effects or mixing in a third track's wicked beats etc. The "rules" of djing are changing quickly and those stuck on the just basics are going to be lost in the dark!

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LeVouS
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Lynnwood, WA

hahahaA~ i like ur ideas DJ Flesch


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New Wave
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Holland

One year to learn beatmaching.....


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Eugene
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Maryland USA

quote:
Originally posted by Acid Circus
2 weeks I had a rough idea.
2 months I was getting very good.
6 months I was fully confident in my beat matching!
Now I don't even think about it, its like breathing.

Let me ask you some questions:
1) If I press the Record button, will your mix be as perfect as when you do it for pleasure?
2) How long are your transitions?


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Acid Circus
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene

Let me ask you some questions:
1) If I press the Record button, will your mix be as perfect as when you do it for pleasure?
2) How long are your transitions?


1) Some people are bothered about being recorded, I'm happy with or without recorded, its all the same to me. It bothered me for a while in the beginning, but now I am fully confident in my abilities.

2) Transistions vary, I hold it for as long as it will sound good. As I play many different sub-genres of trance it varies with the type of record. Euphoric/Euro trance generally only sounds good being mixed for 30-60 seconds. Progressive edged trance and even hard trance can be mixed from anything from 1 minute to 3 minutes depending on the tracks.

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what do you mean "back to back"?


This means one DJ plays one tune, then another DJ plays the next tune and you alternate. Doesn't always have to be one record each, but could be 2 or 3 in a row and then swap DJ. If 2 DJ's work with each other you can easily get a crowd pumped up.

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Abbas
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Hamilton, Canada & Alexandria, VA

My TTs should be arriving early next week, I am ofcourse really excited.....

but I'm looking for some helpful hints, or comments to start out with for beatmatching....things to concentrate on, etc.....


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Registered: May 2001
Location: CA

couple weeks, about 2 months to be really comfortable, matching breaks took about 4 months to be comfortable, but i practiced like a madman last summer

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Registered: Feb 2002
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i just touch the record a little bit


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