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Originally posted by DJ Eco I didn't meet anyone EITHER DAY who was bitching as much as half the people on the forums. You all need to grow some balls. There is the BAD as well as the ridiculous amount of GOOD that comes with big 2-day, 50,000 people festivals (pot smoke, bathroom lines, dirt). Welcome to a place that's OUTSIDE the club (thank god)...

I think you're confusing constructive criticism with bitching/complaining.

The long term goal of this event is to make it bigger and/or better each year. After last year's debut festival, did you think Made Event thought "ok...well...that's our plateau, so we're going to stay the course now"? No, they didn't, so they went out and made some improvements (bigger tents, sound systems, food selection, VIP amenities), and so the event grew.

The dust problem is something that people are talking about and are offering ways to find a solution. If a fix is found, the festival improves once again.

Possibly a solution: some sort of floor for each tent, change of venue
Not a solution: complaining about "negative" people, being passive and settling for less, telling others to grow a pair, etc.

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Originally posted by osterzone I think you're confusing constructive criticism with bitching/complaining. The long term goal of this event is to make it bigger and/or better each year. After last year's debut festival, did you think Made Event thought "ok...well...that's our plateau, so we're going to stay the course now"? No, they didn't, so they went out and made some improvements (bigger tents, sound systems, food selection, VIP amenities), and so the event grew. The dust problem is something that people are talking about and are offering ways to find a solution. If a fix is found, the festival improves once again. Possibly a solution: some sort of floor for each tent, change of venue Not a solution: complaining about "negative" people, being passive and settling for less, telling others to grow a pair, etc.

Do you think that Bindra and co. don't already know every weakpoint to the festival? Do you think they're searching message boards for their solutions? You can't possibly be this stupid. You just like to complain, especially about awesome things you couldnt go to.

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Originally posted by osterzone I think you're confusing constructive criticism with bitching/complaining. The long term goal of this event is to make it bigger and/or better each year. After last year's debut festival, did you think Made Event thought "ok...well...that's our plateau, so we're going to stay the course now"? No, they didn't, so they went out and made some improvements (bigger tents, sound systems, food selection, VIP amenities), and so the event grew. The dust problem is something that people are talking about and are offering ways to find a solution. If a fix is found, the festival improves once again. Possibly a solution: some sort of floor for each tent, change of venue Not a solution: complaining about "negative" people, being passive and settling for less, telling others to grow a pair, etc.

Well, since I don't recall you being around for Electric Zoo last year...there was a lot of dust then, too. It just wasn't nearly as bad as this year, which, at least for me, was compounded by the fact that the one tent I spent most of my time in was the worst one. It was last year, too, though last year, the Sunday School tent was where the Hilltop tent was located last year. Anyone who's a complete trancewhore and stayed only in the Hilltop and Main Stage honestly has nothing to complain about when it comes to the dust aspect. I know most of the people complaining about it and they were all in the same tent as I was for most of both days.

In other words, had YOU gone...you'd have been completely fine. But you didn't, yet are still offering suggestions/criticisms of something that you personally know nothing about.

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Originally posted by Neonbeats You can't possibly be this stupid.

Are you kidding...he's obviously this stupid. He complains that clubs are fiery deathtraps, which is why he stays home.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy In other words, had YOU gone...you'd have been completely fine. But you didn't, yet are still offering suggestions/criticisms of something that you personally know nothing about.

You don't have to attend EZ to visualize a dust problem that everyone's talking about. Fail.

Also I know nothing about this event? I guess that's why I've been having conversations with different people here in various threads about EZ...except with you, who can't put aside a personal bias and resort to ad hominem attacks in nearly all your posts.

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Originally posted by Neonbeats Do you think that Bindra and co. don't already know every weakpoint to the festival? Do you think they're searching message boards for their solutions? You can't possibly be this stupid. You just like to complain, especially about awesome things you couldnt go to.

Tell me how not complaining and staying quiet will improve the festival then. You obviously support that route, so lets hear your stance.

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Originally posted by osterzone Tell me how not complaining and staying quiet will improve the festival then. You obviously support that route, so lets hear your stance.

Dude, they knew on Saturday morning it was a problem. How dumb are you?

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Originally posted by osterzone You don't have to attend EZ to visualize a dust problem that everyone's talking about. Fail. Also I know nothing about this event? I guess that's why I've been having conversations with different people here in various threads about EZ...except with you, who can't put aside a personal bias and resort to ad hominem attacks in nearly all our posts.

Would you review a movie or CD or TV show without ever having heard it and just base it on the opinions of friends? Because that's exactly the same thing that you're doing.

And you do have to attend in order to visualize. I haven't seen a video yet that exemplifies how bad it was when Marco Carola would drop a shattering baseline and the dust would just ascend above the crowd from how hard people were dancing.

Also, I'm not sure that you know what "ad hominem" even means. Personally, I think you're a complete fucking douchebag that bitches about things he doesn't know about from his parents' basement. You never go out. I'll bitch about an event...but at least I attend them. I might joke about an event prior or make one comment after in response to a review thread, but I've never been even close to the whiny c*nt that you've been in every Electric Zoo thread.

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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Originally posted by Konijn
Pendulum - The Island (Steve Angello, AN21 & Max Vangeli Remix)

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Originally posted by diabloargentino favorite mass track of zoo for me. any version of it.

hell yes i went so nuts for it every time!!

and people should just be happy it didn't rain and that they weren't dancing in 6 inches of mud. cmon it was a great event you can handle a little dust.

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Originally posted by Neonbeats Dude, they knew on Saturday morning it was a problem. How dumb are you?

Are you really asking this question? Have you seen what he posts in NY and on Music Discussion? It's not just NYTAs that rip this moron to shreds. Then he just claims they're ad homs...

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

It's more of a rhetorical question. I know the kid is a moron

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Originally posted by Neonbeats It's more of a rhetorical question. I know the kid is a moron

As do so many others that I've personally spoken to while out at events (that he doesn't attend)...

He's become the joke of people that read TA that I hang out with. They just don't say anything on the board.

He's like like the male Yumpop, for different reasons.

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul