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WittyHandle
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quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
what you don't notice doesn't mean it has no impact on your brain.


Exactly

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who really cares how this convo came about. There are more good comments in this thread than there have been on here in months. This is a good thing.

and martin: everyone's old sets sucked, not just you. If anything your progression as a dj over the years shows many good things and is a testament to hard work.

now just give in and play at 115

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Ravemontreal
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Funny because the set I am working on right now is at 120...

At this rate, I will play at about 30 bpm when I am 60 years old

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Minimal ambient is the new shit!


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Dj Nacht
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I don't think you old sets suck Shareeeeee

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Ravemontreal
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I don't even know which old sets we are talking about.

I have all the sets that have an official name up to old Monday Morning from 2001 or 2002. A few live at Ravemontreal (12 and 14 I think), a few live at Black Out, and 2 live @ piknic electronik.

Those who have names would be

The Long Walk Home
The Filth
Ghost
Starman
@ Housepacific.com
No Holds barred
Monday Morning Revisited
Fantastic Machine
Black

on www.dj creator.ca

Then you have

The Addiction
Falling to Pieces
Waking up at 6 am
Rock
Monday Morning

Then I don't remember. But I don't think any of them suck really.

Maybe Rock and RM14 would be the ones I don't care for.

Unless we are talking about the very first ones I did with no names. I didn't keep those

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Its not any of the ones on your site, I already know those. It must be from 2002 or 2003 and its pretty much straight up techno as far I can remember.

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Ravemontreal
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Hmmm. I just remembered one called A Weird State of Mine... maybe that's the one.

But that's all I have on my drive

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DJ_LIFT
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quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal

The Long Walk Home
The Filth
Ghost
Starman
@ Housepacific.com
No Holds barred
Monday Morning Revisited
Fantastic Machine
Black

on www.dj creator.ca



Maybe it was "Black" that I had a long way back that I was asking you about.

Maybe RobbieJ can help me ...what was that Creator mix that was given out for free @ SURFACE back in 2006 when Creator did a live set.

Max and Robbie were helping Creator promo the CD in the club at the time.

BTW: Where is "The Fury" ...I'm still waiting Martin! ;-)


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Ravemontreal
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Yes black was indeed the mix that was given for free at Surface. I was not happy with the first 2 drafts of The Fury and since the idea faded away. But there's plenty more to come.

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DJ_LIFT
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From my experiences , a change in 1 BPM is a very slight change and 90% of ppl will never notice it. Now how it affects the crowd in the long term or on a sub-conscious level is a different story.

3+/- BPM for any track is significant and can affect the crowd. 5 +/- BPM and your into almost into a new genre.

But the comments back and forth about the crowd I think is comparing apples to oranges. From what I have seen you really have three categories of people showing up on the dance floor:

A) Experienced EDM lovers who are passionate about the music and are looking for something special from the DJ whether it is on a technical level or creative level.

B) Young or Un-evolved clubbers who don't understand what they are listening too but want to just have fun and a happy experience.

C) People who don't care about the music and are in the club for reasons that are outside the scope of this conversation.

And I think what is being confused here is which category of people in the club we think matter to a DJ.

Musical taste is subjective and that means that thousands will adore Offer Nissim's music and could care less about his technical ability. In fact his dj mixing skill is actually doesn't really matter to most of his fans because they don't pay to watch him perform because of his technical ability , it's because of how his music makes them feel.

Same is true with trance in some cases ( a la Tiesto ), it's a musical trip that attracts thousands to see a DJ perform , how technically amazing the DJ is not always the priority here.

In other genres technical ability is more relevant, such as techno or house. If the DJ can't mix then the set sounds pretty lame. Genres that are percussion centric place higher expectations on the DJ because the mixing has a much bigger role in the set.

I think Creator is speaking about people in the A) and B) category when he says subtle changes in the set can make a difference. Even if it's not obvious to the trained ear or if they don't realize it.

The people who REALLY don't care about good mixing or bad mixing is in category C) , and this isn't an aspect of the club Creator is entertaining in this topic.

It sounds to be Jay keeps referring to category C) , which does represent a percentage of the crowd in a club but isn't going to make a difference to a DJ in the long term.

Jay is right, we aren't splitting the atom here or designing a new rocket, but there is more to just a 4/4 beat and drugs... otherwise EDM would never have evolved as much as it has in the past 20 years.


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