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nefardec
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I guess that's why its an unpopular opinion. Something about his mode of production just irritates me. I can't really justify it with logic


I think your opinion is the popular opinion as far as this forum and most of the 'electronic dance music' umbrella scene would be concerned.

Theo's production is quirky and artistic. In some cases its supposed to be sloppy. He as a whole series of quick re-edits called 'Ugly Edits' and an experimental release called 'Sketches'. That is exactly his deal - he exposes his process where others would only be interested in exploit their product.

And I think the majority of people aren't looking for that. Most people are looking for something to be handed to them as a polished ready-made that they can easily digest.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that you don't listen to noise music, power electronics, industrial, krautrock, or musique concrete either. Theo's music (and techno in its origin) has a more in common with these kinds of art musics than anything else.

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Be the case as it may, I would still never call music like Theo's "sloppy". Especially since it is "industry standard" now for producers to perfect a track before releasing it rather than just being honest with what's inside.


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Be the case as it may, I would still never call music like Theo's "sloppy". Especially since it is "industry standard" now for producers to perfect a track before releasing it rather than just being honest with what's inside.


It's exactly as sloppy as he wants it.

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I think your opinion is the popular opinion as far as this forum and most of the 'electronic dance music' umbrella scene would be concerned.

Theo's production is quirky and artistic. In some cases its supposed to be sloppy. He as a whole series of quick re-edits called 'Ugly Edits' and an experimental release called 'Sketches'. That is exactly his deal - he exposes his process where others would only be interested in exploit their product.

And I think the majority of people aren't looking for that. Most people are looking for something to be handed to them as a polished ready-made that they can easily digest.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that you don't listen to noise music, power electronics, industrial, krautrock, or musique concrete either. Theo's music (and techno in its origin) has a more in common with these kinds of art musics than anything else.


Spot on guesswork regarding my tastes. Theo actually does have alot of noisy material now that you mention it. I have this record which is definitely hard to digest:

http://www.discogs.com/Leron-Carson...P/release/10739

My feelings were hurt a bit when I found out "solitary flight" was sampled from some 80's record

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Fair enough, I was simply curious.

What are you listening to now a days, Mark? I remember you having a knack for finding nuclear techno bombs.


Can you give me an example of something I cited previously that you liked? I can make some recommendations but I'd have to know where you're coming from first

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Theo Parrish, making sloppy mixing and shitty producing "cool" since 1998.

A lot like smearing shit on a canvas and calling it art.


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Theo Parrish, making sloppy mixing and shitty producing "cool" since 1998.

A lot like smearing shit on a canvas and calling it art.


LOL!


^^^ see guys its not just me. If anyone else but Theo tried this stuff they'd be crucified

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Theo Parrish, making sloppy mixing and shitty producing "cool" since 1998.

A lot like smearing shit on a canvas and calling it art.


not quite.

this is though






ps, since 1995
http://www.discogs.com/Moodymann-Theo-Parrish-Small-Black-Church/master/6076

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Think of it this way, what would happen if an up and comer put out the same kind of stuff that TP does, and what if they mixed like he did? Nobody would pay any attention to them at all, other than possibly saying that they possess poor mixing skills.

Theo is only able to do what he does because of his name, and his history. It's "cool" or "edgy" or "retro." It reminds me of that video where the girl defecates all over a canvas and then a room full of hipsters applaud as if she were Monet.

I guess it's kind of like abstract expressionism. People might think Jackson Pollock was an artistic genius, but it still just looks like a bunch of paint splattered randomly on canvas to me.


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Think of it this way, what would happen if an up and comer put out the same kind of stuff that TP does, and what if they mixed like he did? Nobody would pay any attention to them at all, other than possibly saying that they possess poor mixing skills.

Theo is only able to do what he does because of his name, and his history. It's "cool" or "edgy" or "retro." It reminds me of that video where the girl defecates all over a canvas and then a room full of hipsters applaud as if she were Monet.

I guess it's kind of like abstract expressionism. People might think Jackson Pollock was an artistic genius, but it still just looks like a bunch of paint splattered randomly on canvas to me.


He's detroit related though, so free pass on all accusations

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I think your opinion is the popular opinion as far as this forum and most of the 'electronic dance music' umbrella scene would be concerned.

Theo's production is quirky and artistic. In some cases its supposed to be sloppy. He as a whole series of quick re-edits called 'Ugly Edits' and an experimental release called 'Sketches'. That is exactly his deal - he exposes his process where others would only be interested in exploit their product.

And I think the majority of people aren't looking for that. Most people are looking for something to be handed to them as a polished ready-made that they can easily digest.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that you don't listen to noise music, power electronics, industrial, krautrock, or musique concrete either. Theo's music (and techno in its origin) has a more in common with these kinds of art musics than anything else.


i listen to those, except krautrock (although Cluster is pretty good). don't see how TP is related to those (except Cluster - Zuckerzeit) because some of his stuff sounds a little wonky in comparison to the standard fare.

power electronics and the rest are far, far out there:


apart from that:
-i can't stand orchestral samples, guitars, pianos and real drum samples in most tracks. electronic music isn't synthetic enough.

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What is happening here? Did Juno choose the correct RPM for this Theo Parrish/Honest Jon's clip?

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products...?highlight=THEO PARRISH

I'll admit I love this Billy Love project. Forgot about this one. Its class all the way around.

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/366043-01.htm?highlight=THEO PARRISH

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