I feel like Apple is gaining lots of ground lately due to succesful marketing and other products such as the ipod and iphone. And I have to say their products are pretty neat.

The fact that virtually any part of the media (printing, audio, video) industry works with Mac is mostly because of earlier events, just like pc's gained ground on the corporate side for having a solid office package.

Buying either one is a rather safe bet, both require some knowledge to get the best out of them. From what I've heard I feel inclined to say Mac is a bit easier to grasp. In the end it comes down to preference:

- Do you want design?
- Do you want a silent all in 1 solution?
- Something easily customizable?
- Something a tad cheaper?

Considering your personal view, experience and circumstances either one could be a good buy.

Most interesting remark in this tread was the mentioned resale value of a Mac. Buy one and sell it for a good price if you don't like it and you'll probably have just about enough money for a similar windows-based pc.

Based on my personal experience I would not recommend a Mac to anyone ever. But because it's no use to me doesn't mean it can't be of any use for some one else. Same goes vice versa.

So stop asking and fucking grow an opinion of your own and choose for yourself already . Oh and don't bother telling about it either, that would be nice

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How did you manage to get that so cheap?? It would cost you double that if you were to buy it over here brand new.

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Originally posted by Raphie I wasn't talking studio only RANN. so please don't twist my words around. The only difference between Apple and "the rest" is, propreiaty OS marketing and design. Components are supplied by the same manufacturers who also supply Dell, HP, Acer etc. Like Wistron, flextronics, Asustek, Inventec Appliances and Foxconn. So be as bold as you want, but on a hardware level there is NO difference between Apple and non Apple. also if you want your Windows based DAW to be really quiet, there are plenty of high end manufacturers like Noctua who can get your PC really silent, far more silent than any apple i7 system, for a fraction of the apple i7 cost. But at the end of the day, non of above is relevant, when you are in love with a platform, both work equal, just buy what suits you best. But stop with the Apple superiority crap. Apple does have flawless design and a nice gui though.

If that's the case then I get what you're saying but your other post was really broad generalisations with no qualifications for use or that it was about comparative electronic components. So if that's the subject, yes there's no difference in electronic terms, but the closed hardware platform DOES make a huge difference in the real world, becuase they are not having to build as OS that is all things to all people and more importantly all possible manufacturers. The result is better stability no compatibility issues.

The reason I set that challenge is that prior to being a studio engineer I was a manager for carillon PC audio system, who were the first and most popular audio specific PC's in Europe and even with silent drive enclosures, sorbothane mountings for all the components, fanless PSU's and videocards they still could not get as quiet as my imac is now and you spend SO much money trying to get there.

And whoever said the PC is developed first is not being truthful. many pro audio manufactureres (and please try to remember we're on a music forum here) manufacture for MAC first then worry about PC later. Appogee, Lnyx, Motu, Echo to name a few are brands that all release mac drivers for new products before they get round to PC.

In fairness vista contributed to that but still it;s more about the fact that pro audio brands know that mac support is the priority because of its dominance in professional audio environments (which isn't down to marketing or OS preference, it's down to stablilty and support).

although the components are made by the same companies, is it not true that mac has their own design that only macs can use. I have yet to see a logic board that I could buy OEM.

anyways, lets not forget Ilife!!!!

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Originally posted by Andy28 How did you manage to get that so cheap?? It would cost you double that if you were to buy it over here brand new.

That's why I qualify my mac debates with "the USA" and probably why this argument of value always come up with Australians (because both exchange rates and apple fuck you outside of the USA).

The mac was rrp $1200 but after a bit of haggling with mac mall and going on the right day, I got $100 off.

I actually could have got more as there's a californa state/LA discount initiative for equipment bought for media production

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad storms a brewing. I/m just curious if anyone has ever gone from a mac to a pc.

Anyone? I'd be interested to know. And not a quick flirt. I mean years of mac use, then jump ship to PC?

and of course the student discount. They don't even validate those numbers you enter. You get a couple hundred off right there.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad and of course the student discount. They don't even validate those numbers you enter. You get a couple hundred off right there.

I always wondered about that but I don;t think the discount is as good as it used to be....

ya they really cut it down. The first mac pro I got, I must of saved 400. This time around, only 200.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad anyways, lets not forget Ilife!!!!

... or their privacy statement saying they can share any information they gather about you with third parties without your consent .

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Originally posted by DJ RANN because both exchange rates and apple fuck you outside of the USA

Looks that way. Greedy gits..