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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN define "extremist" though. obviously someone that straps bombs to their chest, but what about someone that works to change/uphold legislation to restrict a woman's right to choose? or what about those that restrict trading hours on 'holy' days? those that spread false and misleading nonsense about scientific facts?

When I said extremist, I was speaking of American Religious extremist.
The other thing I said is not all Middle Eastern Countries have self-exploding Terrorists. Like Indonesia.

I believe India has women rights and I'm fairly sure they don't need to wear veils unless they choose to. A lot of those woman are very traditiinal but I have seen them walking around withoyt them.

From what I understand that even though Iraq was ran by an iron fist the women didn't have to wear veils either under Saddam. I believe they also had some sort of civu
-rights.

Now after we invaded and Iraqs Government has now limited all that.
I'm not sure if Indonesia follows the guide lines of India or not.

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Originally posted by Tasty Onions Why do religious people always make the best architecture? Seriously wondered that for a long time...

they don't.


wealthy and powerful people make the best architecture.

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Originally posted by nefardec they don't. wealthy and powerful people make the best architecture.

Are you reffering to independant wealthy people that make those complex and interesting that they live in or are you reffering that wealthy people design those beautiful religious buildings?

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Originally posted by Lira +1. He has every right to criticise any idea in the world, should he find a flaw with it. However, insulting religion for the sake of it is as mature as flipping your finger to random people on the street.

So you have no right to be immature?

He is talking specifically about a right. And then of course he explains that he gives religion the same respect as it gives him, so in reality it corresponds to him giving the finger to someone on the street who has given him the finger first - but that is actually irrelevant. He's surely has the right, dosen't he?

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Originally posted by Znack So you have no right to be immature? He is talking specifically about a right. And then of course he explains that he gives religion the same respect as it gives him, so in reality it corresponds to him giving the finger to someone on the street who has given him the finger first - but that is actually irrelevant. He's surely has the right, dosen't he?

Lira can answer this better but who gave the finger to him first and secondly if someone gives you the finger first, I don't see why waste one second paying attention to it and Liras statement was that going down the street giving people the finger was a metaphor for immaturity. We are on a forum and I didn't see and fingers being thrown?

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Originally posted by Znack . He's surely has the right, dosen't he?

There are some locations in the world, that people do not have this right (I'm referring to freedom of speech....i.e. the freedom to disagree with what other people are saying)

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Originally posted by nefardec they don't. wealthy and powerful people make the best architecture.

Well, yeah, nobody is going to make great architecture without a good amount of cash.

I'm saying that given the large amounts of wealth and power on both sides (religious and non), I still (usually) find religiously inspired architecture more beautiful.

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Originally posted by Desiderata Sarcastic? I am an Atheists but my mom works at a Church and I do not see the point of these discussions. I've met a lot of interesting Religious people. Things are not always so black and white with Religion. For example people are fiddling with their perceptions more so than in the past. For example, I know a Christian that believes Intelligent Design is impossible. He feels Darwinism and God go hand in hand. Who is to say that what he believes is not Christianity? He grew up that way and modified. And when someone believes something whole-heartedly they are interesting to me in terms of Religion goes, as long as they don't infringe on my beliefs in this matter.

“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” - Gandhi

this is a legendary quote that I absolutely agree with.

so let's drink a cup of tea together. my words and deeds towards you will reflect those of Christ.

did we get chicago bear spam in a regular thread?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mattinsanity
“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” - Gandhi

this is a legendary quote that I absolutely agree with.

so let's drink a cup of tea together. my words and deeds towards you will reflect those of Christ. [/QUOTE

Ummm, I CLEARLY stated that I was an Atheist!

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Originally posted by tubularbills did we get chicago bear spam in a regular thread?

You know Tbils, I frequently have this earge to buy Chicago Bear merchandise when discussing Religion. I guess since I born in Springfield, Ill.

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