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EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by Tasty Onions
Actually, I will say one thing right now to correct a certain mistaken assumption, because it has been kind of painful to watch you guys work based on it:

^ This is correct. The spaces are merely cosmetic. So the grouping of characters into sets of five has no special meaning.

More substantive hints if Eddie gives the okay.


In light of this, I'm giving the okay. That was something I actually considered but I just didn't think you were so devious.







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414. That’s an error.


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quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
In light of this, I'm giving the okay.

I had a couple hints typed out earlier, but given Meat187's post in the meantime, I will just say this: keep his points in mind and you will be on the right track.
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
  • In the first segment I count 1006 symbols "+", "-", "." and "*". That number can't be divided by 3, 4 or 5 which means it's not a simple code replacing letters with a fixed length symbol representation.
  • For variable-length codes you need to knwo where a unit begins. For this one can use a prefix-free code or a separator.
  • Since the only combination that never occurs is ".." it's likely that the "." is such a separator.
  • A typical variable length code is the Huffman Coding.
  • If the meaning of specific code chunks doesn't change then it can usually be cracked using the Letter frequency. If the meaning of a chunk varies then it's a lot more difficult.

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well fuck me I'm out.


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quote:
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unless maybe it lasts a really long time and nobody comes close.

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Another hint: Meat187 is correct that "." is a separator of sorts. It is used to separate the symbols into pairs of strings. For example, "+++*.-." is the first pair, and "**-.+." is the second pair, and so on.

Now you need to figure out what the pairs mean.


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Taipan
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I know "complicated" is a relative term, but the fact that you thought anyone here would be able to solve this without any hints is just ridiculous!

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quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
I know "complicated" is a relative term, but the fact that you thought anyone here would be able to solve this without any hints is just ridiculous!


The problem was that he put spaces in there after every 5 symbol, which messed everything up. He might as well have put in a bunch of random numbers at random intervals here and there, just to be ignored. It's a nice way to make a code fucking hard to crack.


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I say it has to do with multiplication, addition, and subtraction.


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quote:
Originally posted by Redd
The problem was that he put spaces in there after every 5 symbol, which messed everything up. He might as well have put in a bunch of random numbers at random intervals here and there, just to be ignored. It's a nice way to make a code fucking hard to crack.



Haha, yea, that's true, cause the Q's are the first thing people notice.
But even with all the hints - its still fucking hard! I'm looking at these "Pairs" he speaks of. So each string has 2 segments which together translate into a single letter?

I can tell you right now nobody is gonna get this. But I'm still very curious - so just tell us already Tasty!

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