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| quote: | Originally posted by Dmatrox
i thought people are born straight and turn to the other side later because of influence |
You make it sound as though it's the straight team vs the gay team in the hockey championship of the world to determine species dominance this evening on CBC or something... 
Going further now though...
Arbiter brought up the gay animals in other species factoid again for me, which I appreciate, as I also said earlier, being gay is unusual, but it's not unnatural, big difference there.
The population control thing is a popular theory, I've even read studies suggesting that the archetypal "gay uncle" came about to help us when we were in tribal groups, to ease some of the burden of the straight people in the child rearing. Who knows, it's really conjecture, the main point being that gayness occurs *many* places in nature...whether it be for population control or whatever the fact is that it exists.
Though the point of it all was lost on me I have to commment on the what if 110% of the population was gay comment...well, what if? It's not as though technology isn't at the point where women can be artificially inseminated you know...wow, imagine, if you wanted a kid you'd have to purposefully go out of your way to do so. Sounds like an effective population control method to me.
I think environment *does* play a certain role in shaping people, and can be a *factor* in gayness, but to suggest that people willfully choose the orientation, or that we're attempting to "turn people" is utterly ridiculous.
Shocking news: Being gay isn't a big party.
Most of the people you fall in love with have no capacity to love you back.
A lot of the gay people you meet are over the top flamers who are interested in nothing but the "gay culture" (aka: the stereotypical things people tend to think of when they think of gays, theatre, cooking, etc, etc, etc)
You have to deal with religious people and bigots who judge you for something that you had no conscious choice in.
Nice girls, who you really like *as friends* end up being hurt when they come onto you and you reject them.
"Friends" suddenly decide that you're a fucking leper.
Other friends understand, but are still uncomfortable around you.
Trust me mate, I wouldn't wish this on anybody, it's a shite state of affairs.
Whenever I hear someone going on and on about how "unnatural" gay people are I say to myself "There's a person who's never had a friend who was gay..."
Surprise: We're just like everyone else, we're not going to rape you, we're not going to steal your children, we're just going to try to make do and enjoy our lives, just like everyone else is.
It doesn't seem too much to ask to just let us go on and do that without piling harassment and ignorance on us every step of the way.
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) are crazy for the lesbian/bisexual gals but then at the same time bash the guys - where's the logic in that?
