For sure, but on top of that:
I like the sound of analogue bettter, both in sources, dynamics processing and summing
Real midi messages to analogue synths have tighter timing from a dedicated hardware sequencer than a computer based DAW, syncing multiple sequencers, each to their own strenght, i.e. Tempest and TT303, bring character to tracks, by dedicating yourself to their workflow and capabillities.
Andsoforth andsoforth......

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Originally posted by tehlord The point for me is to be as free as possible. At some point I'll be jamming away and I will want more parts playing than I have hands available to play them, so as Raphie has discovered there are solutions away from a DAW that can more quickly allow you to get some phrases and loops going. The desk is there to provide a fast hands on solution to levels, panning and sends. Interactive as you say. There's no commercial reason to do it, it's just 'because I can'.

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Originally posted by Raphie For sure, but on top of that: I like the sound of analogue bettter, both in sources, dynamics processing and summing Real midi messages to analogue synths have tighter timing from a dedicated hardware sequencer than a computer based DAW, syncing multiple sequencers, each to their own strenght, i.e. Tempest and TT303, bring character to tracks, by dedicating yourself to their workflow and capabillities. Andsoforth andsoforth......

Although I didn't even go down that road I agree.

In the last couple of years I've had a couple of cheap hardware synths (MS2000, KS, 1080 etc) and no matter how basic they are I still prefer the sound of them. I don't care how many A/B comparisons are posted on the net, the sound is different.

I'm no hardware snob either. Software is fucking amazing.

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It is, but it's also too clean, too sterile, too artifical when processed
Not saying better or worse, but real synths just sound more "real" to me

They have their own spot in the mix, more body, their own quircks etc
Everything that comes out of a PC just sounds the same, to perfect, bland, processed, lack of lowmid denisity too clean, no depth etc etc. Mind you, people may sell their outboard for the very same reason, as they just all like to sound like Nickey Romero, Afrojack, or the latest Ableton minimal techno template. And they might find my music "old farts bore me lots" at the end of the day everyone should be in it for fun, finding what they are looking for. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder 'n stuff

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Originally posted by Raphie It is, but it's also too clean, too sterile, too artifical when processed They have their own spot in the mix, more body, their own quircks etc Everything that comes out of a PC just sounds the same, to perfect, bland, processed, lack of lowmid denisity too clean, no depth etc etc.

Yes I deffo agree with all this, particualrly the sterile sound, which I often refer to as a sort of fizzy candypops quality.

Also I do find Cubas 5.5 quantising options very limiting and like you say not as tight as some dedicated hardware clocks.
I often play live without quantize and then move nots about but honestly there are times when I just cannot get the note to sit in the time space I want it to - in fact this drives me endlessly nuts.


If I had the time, patience and was willing to invest the money, I'd go mainly hardware. We spend a lot of holidays and on investing so I cannot get away with a big hardware slurge...yet

i always wanted to try a TC fireworx or Eventide Eclipse

But i actually fall on the software side of the fence nowadays (apart from me Virus), but to each their own hey?

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