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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Syntonic
I'll agree with the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crashes. Didn't look like a plane hit the Pentagon at all.


what DOES a plane crash look like when a plane slams into a reinforced concrete building at 500mph do you think?

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Also does anyone remember when the FBI went to all places like gas stations and stores around the Pentagon and took their surveillance tapes, then when they released it they showed like 5 frames of video...always thought that was strangest thing.


you mean the tapes which were subsequently returned to their owners after no relevant footage was found? super strange!


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WTC7 was smashed by debris from WTC1 and burned, unfought, for 6 or 7 hours. all the firemen in the vicinity knew WTC7 was going to come down. knock yourself out:

http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstud...c/faqs_wtc7.cfm


I still remember this video where Danny didn't know WTC7 came down on the same day. As an demolition expert just one option sounded logical to him.
I think it's also strange that other buildings which caught fire in the past didn't collapse even after days of fire. And then this one does and also in a perfect way, which IMO at least is strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=877gr6xtQIc

Just wondering, I heard firemen say "It's gonna blow", do you use "blow" also like "collapse"?

The car incident probably just was coincidence, they said he had been drinking, but the timing short after his interview was remarkable.

And yes, chance is not high that I'm too young around here. But I meant the amount of very recent commends, like few weeks or days old.


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yeah they do, if you're a lazy fuck that hasn't bothered to read anything written on the subject in the last decade
just because you're an ignorant tool doesn't mean we all are.



Yeah man, I'm with you, I don't doubt I'm ignorant on this subject but if you were to be so kind to hip me on these reading you have found I would love to read them.


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Yeah man, I'm with you, I don't doubt I'm ignorant on this subject but if you were to be so kind to hip me on these reading you have found I would love to read them.


mark roberts' site is a one-stop shop for all the nonsense and lies spread by the "truth" movement.

here is the pentagon/flight 77 evidence:

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7l...evidencesummary


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I think it's also strange that other buildings which caught fire in the past didn't collapse even after days of fire. And then this one does and also in a perfect way, which IMO at least is strange.


Not all buildings are created equal though. the towers specifically had an unusual design (as I pointed out earlier in this thread). Indeed, the second tower hit by the plane was actually the first to fall, due to the location of the damage and ensuing fire.
WTC7 also didn’t collapse in a “perfect” way, it fell slightly to the side, and crashed into another building if I recall correctly. There’s no doubt that the videos available make it look like a controlled demolition though, but looks can be deceiving. If you have specific queries then the link I provided at NIST should address those issues.

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Just wondering, I heard firemen say "It's gonna blow", do you use "blow" also like "collapse"?


I don’t know. You’d have to ask the fireman. There are numerous quotes from firies at the site which indicated they knew the building was in trouble.

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The car incident probably just was coincidence, they said he had been drinking, but the timing short after his interview was remarkable.


Jowenko was making statements about demolition years before he died in the car crash.


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mark roberts' site is a one-stop shop for all the nonsense and lies spread by the "truth" movement.

here is the pentagon/flight 77 evidence:

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7l...evidencesummary


I read it and now I understand, There is no question planes hit the Pentagon and the other site as well. Thanks, for linking this website.


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you're welcome. i apologise for my previous reaction; i have no patience on these topics.


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you're welcome. i apologise for my previous reaction; i have no patience on these topics.



I wouldn't either if I did all the leg work to find the truth as you had done.


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WTC7 also didn’t collapse in a “perfect” way, it fell slightly to the side, and crashed into another building if I recall correctly. There’s no doubt that the videos available make it look like a controlled demolition though, but looks can be deceiving. If you have specific queries then the link I provided at NIST should address those issues.


I got the feeling that still could go for nearly perfect, but I can't really tell. I believe in a domino effect as an option, but at the same time also in the fact that the fire possibly wasn't severe enough to cause it.
I do find it interesting also regarding the comments of some chemists regarding the temperatures.


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I don’t know. You’d have to ask the fireman. There are numerous quotes from firies at the site which indicated they knew the building was in trouble.


I'll jump in a plane right away I just meant in general for native English speaking.

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Jowenko was making statements about demolition years before he died in the car crash.


True, as I said personally I think it was coincidence, but I think this made some people wonder: http://www.dailypaul.com/172140/dan...a-mossad-in-911
I mentioned his accident just to say he died, as he was not that old.


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but at the same time also in the fact that the fire possibly wasn't severe enough to cause it.


well you're wrong.


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