I have BFA but I have no desire to get into art arguments.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It really isn't that hard to come home from work and spend the evening writing instead of getting high, playing videogames, going to the gym, watching sports or whatever other shit you normally do with your free time.

This is true, but it can also be very draining - especially with a full-time job - since you're coming home from work only to sit down and do more work. But, "Where there's a will - and there is a fucking will - there's a way - and there is a fucking way."

I remember a passing conversation with a stranger in NYC long ago about Marvel Comics, and how she wished she could "draw like that" but "would never be able to." I said, sure you could, you just have to really want to.

Hmmm. That reminded me of a letter I read way back.

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Dear Mr. Kelsey, What would I tell a class of Middle School students? When I was in Middle School, I liked to make cartoons. I was not the best artist in my class — Chad Prins was way better — but I liked making comic strips and animated films, so after High school it was no surprise that I got into The California Institute of the Arts (CalArts), a school that taught animation. CalArts only accepts 25 students a year, and it attracts some of the best artists in the country. Suddenly I went from being one of the top artists in my class to being one of the absolute worst. Looking at the talented folks around me, I knew there was no way I would make it as a professional. Everyone else drew way better than I did. And I assumed the people who were the best artists would become the top animators. But I loved animation, so I kept doing it. I made tons of films. I did animation for my friends' films. I animated scenes just for the fun of it. Most of my stuff was bad, but I had fun, and I tried everything I knew to get better. Meanwhile, many of the people who could draw really well kind of rested around and didn't do a whole lot. It made me angry, because if I had their talent, man, the things I would do with it! Years later, a lot of those guys who probably still draw really well don't actually work in animation at all. I don't know what happened to them. As for me, I got hired at Pixar Animation Studios, where I got to work on Toy Story 1 and 2, direct Monsters, Inc., and Up (due out May 29th this year). So, Middle School Student, whatever you like doing, do it! And keep doing it. Work hard! In the end, passion and hard work beats out natural talent. (And anyway, if you love what you do, it's not really "work" anyway.) Good luck, Pete Docter

http://www.businessinsider.com/you-...choolers-2012-7

"In the end, passion and hard work beats out natural talent."

Yerp. Again, "you just have to really want to [do it]." You can have all the talent in the world, but if you're not dedicated, you ain't getting nowhere. I forgot which artist (I believe he was a writer) was once asked how he became such a prolific, famous artist. Like how do you do it, mang?! He replied with a simple something like, "I get up every morning and exactly at 9 am sharp I sit down and get to work."

Well, one does of course need a certain level of competence. Docter may not have been the best in his class, but he was good enough to get into a top program. All the passion and hard work in the world won't help some people. Saying it will is just a lie, one that we Americans seem to love to tell each other. If you work hard at something, you can achieve anything!

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So simple yet so hard. Lol.

If only life's distractions wouldn't get in the way.

But hey, that's just making excuses 'cause it's all up to us at the end of the day.

That's precisely why I want to move to the wilderness. I've loved the city all my life, but I want to get away from the distractions.

It's amazing what a book or two can do to influence your actions.

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Originally posted by Lews If you work hard at something, you can achieve anything!

YOU CAN BE PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD!

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Originally posted by Lews Well, one does of course need a certain level of competence. Docter may not have been the best in his class, but he was good enough to get into a top program. All the passion and hard work in the world won't help some people. Saying it will is just a lie, one that we Americans seem to love to tell each other.

Talent (and good taste) certainly does help, but lots of this so-called "talent" is often manifested through hard work and dedication. Of course if you have an aptitude for cooking, you'll probably be a better cook than you will an actor, if you had to choose where to expend your energies.

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If you work hard at something, you can achieve it!

Fixed.

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Originally posted by OrangestO That's precisely why I want to move to the wilderness. I've loved the city all my life, but I want to get away from the distractions.

Why not spend a day or two there first, before making such a hasty decision.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred This is true, but it can also be very draining - especially with a full-time job - since you're coming home from work only to sit down and do more work. But, "Where there's a will - and there is a fucking will - there's a way - and there is a fucking way."

In my experience, being fucking broke all the time is even more draining than going to work.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J In my experience, being fucking broke all the time is even more draining than going to work.

Poverty is a great motivator, though. When I'm broke, I focus on reading and writing more than any other time in my life. When I have money, I'm easily distracted and partake in other activities like going to a fucking club to see a DJ.

A lot of it has to do with my personality because I'm impulsive and lack self-discipline in certain areas of my life. But hey, that's just how it is.

Being broke, escaping to the wilderness - just ways to escape the distractions.

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Originally posted by OrangestO A lot of it has to do with my personality because...[I] lack self-discipline in certain areas of my life. But hey, that's just how it is.

Lacking self-discipline is not a personality trait, it's laziness. That certainly doesn't have to be "just how it is."

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Why not spend a day or two there first, before making such a hasty decision.

I experienced a lot of Canadian wilderness growing up (Algonquin Park was heaven).

I don't know about going all Ted Kaczynski, but living in a small town near something that doesn't sound as bad as it once did for me.

City life is cancerous.