Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I regard that as a good thing as it doesn't eternally bind us to ridiculous ideological concepts from 250 years ago, like the notion that society is safer when everyone is allowed to brandish lethal weaponry. This "central themed document" is little different to the Bible in that it's an ancient tome written when society was very different that lays down a certain set of guidelines which need to be subjectively interpreted and applied to modern situations. And then it's routinely violated by your own government anyway.
Yea you talk about Americans and the Bible but let's not forget how interconnected the British system is with divinity, the church, and monarchism. Those are all pretty insane concepts and actually enshrined in your government, where as the US explicitly denies the government from doing those things.
Nov-28-2014 17:44
Srussell
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Oct 2014
Location: New York
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Only if you make an assumption that I also find it morally right as well, which I don't.
You can defend horrible things in a broader context and still not personally find them right.
Then again Russell you strike me as one of those people that cant grasp subtlety like that and probably think defense attorneys are all pro murder and pro rape.
You strike me as one of those people who can't grasp the subtlety of the difference between a girl saying "yes" or "no"
Nov-28-2014 18:06
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by Srussell
You strike me as one of those people who can't grasp the subtlety of the difference between a girl saying "yes" or "no"
I am from Seattle, everything is a no, especially a yes. That goes for everything beyond sex too.
Nov-28-2014 18:09
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Yea you talk about Americans and the Bible but let's not forget how interconnected the British system is with divinity, the church, and monarchism. Those are all pretty insane concepts and actually enshrined in your government, where as the US explicitly denies the government from doing those things.
I'm not talking about Americans and the Bible, actually. My point is that you're talking about the Constitution as if it's some clear and universally applicable legal guideline, but I'm saying it's just like the Bible in that it's actually open to interpretation when it comes to applying it to things that your founding fathers never even dreamed of when they wrote it centuries ago.
And it's funny you talk about things being "enshrined" in our government when your whole point is that UK law isn't actually enshrined in anything and is apparently just "a series of gentleman's agreements".
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And it's funny you talk about things being "enshrined" in our government when your whole point is that UK law isn't actually enshrined in anything and is apparently just "a series of gentleman's agreements".
Something can be enshrined in something shifting and baseless (like power descending from the crown), doesn't mean it isn't a considered sacred part of the tradition or system.
And yes, the constitution is open to interpretation, but the interpretation is limited by the fact that it is a document, where as British legal precedent descends from nobility and ultimately the "power of god" through the crown and Church of England, which to my knowledge has no one binding document more important than the bible, which is not saying much.
Nov-28-2014 20:37
wotyzoid
it's not house
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: New Jersey
Nou, when you clean your fleshlight do you get depressed about it or do you clean it in delight, eager to rub another one off?
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Nou, when you clean your fleshlight do you get depressed about it or do you clean it in delight, eager to rub another one off?
Those things are more trouble than they are worth.
Nov-28-2014 21:10
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
That's fine though, your power ultimately rests in the "divine" authority of the Queen/King still. We chose a document, which seems far more suitable for a modern society since it gets rid of all the pointless pageantry of monarchism.
fuck you talk some shit.
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Nov-29-2014 07:44
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
Nov-29-2014 08:03
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
Hey, if we could have a queen come break up our deadlock in congress I'd be pretty fucking happy right now!
Nov-29-2014 08:04
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fuck you talk some shit.
