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Originally posted by hardcore trancer well Iam from Iran, I want Bush to fuckin die!!and dont care what any of you will say!!! have you guys ever wondered how IRAQ has those weapons of mass destructions?? well it is very simple, USA gave them those weapons many years go when they were in war with IRAN!!!!thats right they used it against my people, at that time which was 1981 I believe, and 2 years after the Islamic ravolution, US didnt want Islamic extremist from my country to be powerful, and since we(Iran) had a powerful military from the past,and I could say the most powerful in middle east, so us comes along supports Iraq, gives them bio,chemical weapons, to kill my people, and here we are years later, Us is doesnt want Iraq to have those weapons,so I think Us guvernemnt should fukin get blasted by bio,chemical,or nuclear weapons just to get a taste of its own. same thing with Bin Laden, another US creation,why? to kicks the Russians out of Afghanistan, years later Us wants Bin Laden dead. so I think what ever has or will happen to Us, their fucked up Guvernemnt is to blame.

why don't you move to iraq?

>JM<

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Originally posted by Juricimo why don't you move to iraq? >JM<

what are u trying to say??
so because Iam against what the US guverment says or believes about middle east I have to go to Iraq??mmmm I dont think so

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Originally posted by Juricimo why don't you move to iraq? >JM<

You know, if you want to be taken seriously it might help to actually read what the other person was saying before responding to them.

This is the second time I've seen you just casually dismiss someone who has a different viewpoint on the situation as being an unwitting dupe of Iraq...if you'd actually taken a big, fat minute to read the post you would have seen the guy writing is *from IRAN* and isn't happy because the weapons the US supplied to Iraq in the 80's were *USED AGAINST HIS PEOPLE*...yeah, I'm sure he wants to move to Iraq...

That'd be like me saying you should move into the home of someone who murdered several members of your family because you didn't like the guy who sold said murderer the weapon he used to commit the crimes much either.

Please think before you hit the "Submit Reply" button...

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Originally posted by CortexBomb You know, if you want to be taken seriously it might help to actually read what the other person was saying before responding to them.

how did you arrive at the conclusion that i haven't read his thread?

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This is the second time I've seen you just casually dismiss someone who has a different viewpoint on the situation as being an unwitting dupe of Iraq...

...and not the last

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That'd be like me saying you should move into the home of someone who murdered several members of your family because you didn't like the guy who sold said murderer the weapon he used to commit the crimes much either.

you're right.
although this is what he said:

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer well Iam from Iran, I want Bush to fuckin die!!and dont care what any of you will say!!!

he warranted my response just by the above statement which is in red. another anti-US/Bush statement makes me wanna wish all writers of such statements to go to Iraq to see if they would be better off there, rather then in USA, Canada (as in hardcore trancer's case) or anywhere else for that matter.

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Please think before you hit the "Submit Reply" button...

same goes for you.

>JM<

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer what are u trying to say?? so because Iam against what the US guverment says or believes about middle east I have to go to Iraq??mmmm I dont think so

i thought you didn't care what anyone else said.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer well Iam from Iran, I want Bush to fuckin die!!and dont care what any of you will say!!!

>JM<

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Originally posted by Juricimo he warranted my response just by the above statement which is in red. another anti-US/Bush statement makes me wanna wish all writers of such statements to go to Iraq to see if they would be better off there, rather then in USA, Canada (as in hardcore trancer's case) or anywhere else for that matter. >JM<

I'm sorry, but I think that's a poor rationale for your statement...essentially you're stating that every time someone says something stupid you have an obligation to fire back with an equally inane comment...and that's what turns interesting conversations into flamewars in a hurry.

you guys are both wrong in some way, and please lets keep this place civilized, i dont want to see this place closed.

hardcore trancer - you cant wish to kill someone (in this case bush) because of something that happened 21 years ago (as is your reasoning) in which the guy had nothing to do with it. thats plainly dumb in my point of view.

Juricimo - instead of saying one line sentences that may seem senseless to most others, just back up why you think getting hardcore trancer to live in iraq would change his views on how he sees things.

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Originally posted by Izzy hardcore trancer - you cant wish to kill someone (in this case bush) because of something that happened 21 years ago (as is your reasoning) in which the guy had nothing to do with it. thats plainly dumb in my point of view.

How is it dumb??? Us is saying that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, but they dont want to say how they got those weapons, and they dont want the world to know why Iraq used those weapons against Iran, because they told Iraq to use those weapons!!!
I just want USA to stay stay the hell away from middle east,I still dont see how Iraq could be such a big threat to America!!Bush is saying Iraq is a big danger to the region!!well I think USA is the biggest danger in midddle east, basically they are taking over middle east, thats how I see it,I just wonder what country is next in this game that US is playing.The only country that Iraq might attack is Isreal, which I really dont care,and I dont wanna get into that subject right now, and since Isreal is the biggest kiss asss to US, they will always be backed up by US military.So dont worry nothing will happen to them, and Iraq knows that, so chances are that Saddam wont attack them But that is another issue, and not
related to this thread!!!
so please people dont start on that issue.

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Originally posted by Webmeister The US of course has never had any chemical weapons....

Of course the US has chemical weapons. Not only that but they have biological weapons too. Probably more than any other country besides Russia. What do you expect from the Cold War buildup? The difference is that the US has never had the propensity to use chemical warfare. Nor have they ever THREATENED to use it. If I recall, Iraq has not only threatened to use it ... but they HAVE used it, against the Iranians and their own people. What kind of restraint do you think they will show if they have nuclear weapons? Fine they might not use it against a country that can retaliate in kind (because they are bullies and cowards at heart), but they would most certainly use it against smaller, weaker countries without remorse.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I dont see how Iraq could be such a big threat to America!!Bush is saying Iraq is a big danger to the region!!well I think USA is the biggest danger in midddle east

Ummmmmmm how did the gulf war start? I guess the American CIA told Iraq to invade Kuwait. Then the CIA told Iraq to start threatening to invade Saudi Arabia. Then the omnipotent CIA coerced the Saudis to set up bases for US troops as a guise for the PROTECTION of Saudi Arabia. Then, in secret, the CIA convinced the United Nations that the benevolent Iraqis were a hostile threat to the region and that they should set up a coalition force to oust the Iraqis from the countries they invaded. Then, the warmongering United States, despite having the ability to completely destroy Iraq, inexplicably decided to sign a peace treaty returning the countries to their natural borders. How out of character. Finally, the godless Americans have the audacity to get upset over the peace loving Iraqis after they refuse access of several research areas to the UN weapons inspectors ... who are agents of Satan (America). I would back up my arguments with facts but that's old school ... everybody nowadays just blurts out whatever they think.

I've always wondered why the majority of Muslims support Iraq? Iraq is the most secular state in the region. And religion in general is the furthest thing from its agenda. For example ... why did they invade Kuwait? It wasn't to unite all Arabs and Muslims ... it was because they were cash strapped from the Iran-Iraq war and they needed the rich oil fields of Kuwait to get out of debt. Also why did they destroy and sabotage all the oil refineries in Kuwait? It wasn't to hurt the US. The US gets most of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. It mostly hurt the Kuwaities and the environment. It was seriously a maliscious act against a fellow Arab/Muslim country in response to a losing battle. I find it disconcerting that countries can be just as childish and maliscious as some of its constituents.

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Originally posted by occrider I've always wondered why the majority of Muslims support Iraq? Iraq is the most secular state in the region. And religion in general is the furthest thing from its agenda. For example ... why did they invade Kuwait? It wasn't to unite all Arabs and Muslims ... it was because they were cash strapped from the Iran-Iraq war and they needed the rich oil fields of Kuwait to get out of debt. Also why did they destroy and sabotage all the oil refineries in Kuwait? It wasn't to hurt the US. The US gets most of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia. It mostly hurt the Kuwaities and the environment. It was seriously a maliscious act against a fellow Arab/Muslim country in response to a losing battle. I find it disconcerting that countries can be just as childish and maliscious as some of its constituents.

i don't give a rat ass about politicians , WE (as Arabs and Muslims) support the Iraqi people , not saddam or anyone else

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