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Originally posted by DJ RANN It's production values were terrible and actors on the whole were shite, reinforced by the fact that only one of them (who was actually only in a couple of seasons) have produced anything of EITHER quality OR success since.

Our Carice van Houten in Brimstone 2016, that movie broke some records here.

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Where Rann go?

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Originally posted by Hides in Shadow Where Rann go?

Cat 5 = serious shiat, yo.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken Is it true that Princess Leia was bipolar and did drugs?

True. She also listened to Led Zeppelin.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken So many character layers on that film it’s hard to pick side.

Always pick the character whose theme music is Immigrant Song.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken I usually select yogi the frog.

I select Yoshi in Mario Kart.

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Originally posted by Zoso Cat 5 = serious shiat, yo.

Yeah, my house is built like a Russian Tank, got shutters in place too. Somehow my hindu neighbor decided to get his lawn done today

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Originally posted by Lews How does the failure of other movies with the stars of GoT indicate that GoT's success had nothing to do with the writing?

It doesn't and that's an odd way to try to frame the argument. Success (or lack therefore) of other movies they've been is just one of many indicators that the actors are shit. They got so much hype and a springboard platform from GoT that many actors never get and literally only one, maybe two have been in anything that didn't die horrifically (both critically and financially) at the box office. Shit, a ton of their output was so bad that it went straight to DVD/streaming.

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Originally posted by Lews Where is your evidence that a large portion of the user base only wanted to see big budget soft porn?

I'm not going to even get in to this. GoT fans can't see how bad it is so I'll let you "enjoy" it (hint: the first episode had a graphic rape scene, the second had no less than three sex scenes including one how to turn your rapist in a lover...and then it just accelerated from there).

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Originally posted by Lews Ahh, yes, good point, the show clearly was not about plotlines at all.

Ah, Rotten tomatoes, that bastion of critiquing accuracy.

Fuck my life

RT gave Jurassic World a 77%

The Amazing Spider-Man got 72%

Sing got 73%

And wait for it:

Attack of the clones 65% Fresh rating.

In fact there's whole websites just dedicated to pointing out how how fucking crap RT as an indicator of quality is, not least because it favors ardent fan base commercial vehicles so heavily.

I wish you'd do the tiniest bit of research before posting spoon fed graphics.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Which makes a reply like "I think you're confusing success with good content" fucking idiotic, doesn't it? It's completely obvious from what he wrote that PKC is not the kind of person who appeals to popularity, because his whole point was that these shows were exceptions by maintaining success and high quality simultaneously. Right from the start your entire line of reasoning has been utterly irrelevant, because you're trying to shoot down a position that was never put forward.

You're literally just arguing for the pathetic sake of it now because you can't back down in the face of actual quotes.

One post ago you're trying to say he did in fact differentiate between good and successful.

I posted where he claimed both, in two different sentences and now you're trying to say "well it's a given as to what the intention was!". Fuck off. I quoted it, and rather than you trying to a do a rain dance to obfuscate the entire point, it still remains:

GoT was commercially successful shit for overgrown manchildren who like socially acceptable soft porn with dragons and wizards, and a bit of incest for good measure.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I haven't made a single statement with regards to the quality of GOT, because I've never watched it. Again, you're demonstrating an amazing ability to infer completely the wrong thing from written language.

Not going to rail you on that, although it is a bit silly to be having an argument about something you've never even attempted to watch, so in effect, you really don't know the subject matter.

However, the point which you fail to see remains; the show was a massive commercial success despite it being badly acted and poorly produced with utterly convoluted writing. Things like the actors being the biggest stars on the planet flopping in every pother thing they've done is one of several indications that the show is commercially viable not because of talent or performance, but because a fan base gets easily satisfied.

The fact terms like swords and sorcery are being used to describe something that can only be shows to adult audiences in kinda a hint of who the demographic is here,

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J If your whole point is to separate popularity and success from artistic merit, your argument against GOT should proceed exclusively along the lines of analysing the artistic qualities of the show. But you've barely done any of that, because frankly you lack the critical apparatus. Instead, you start analysing the success of other projects, which is the most moronic and contradictory thing you could have done, because you've just made such a point of saying success and quality and not interchangeable.

Actually, you just didn't pay attention; I've mentioned everything from the costumes, to hair and makeup, to acting and performances, to writing content, to gratuitous and utterly unrealistic sex and violence as nothing other than a mechanism to appeal to a low information base......

But it makes sense that you skimmed over those because you haven't seen any of it so instead you tried and to make a proxy argument what PKC did or didn't "mean", rather than said.


I've made my thoughts, with specifics reasons as to why the show is shit and the related elements such as things (among others but you keep dwelling on this one highlight) like the fact the hype from the show gave the "stars" and unprecedented springboard to launch major careers, the likes of which we haven't seen in decades, fell absolutely flat.

I suppose I should qualify one thing that I've not specifically stated here; I know some of the people that manage several of the people in the show. I'm not going in to detail here of all places but the overwhelming consensus is that they're pulling back from the massive rush/hysteria there was during the show, because simply put, they threw a ton of mud at the wall and none of it stuck. The show appealed to certain people in a certain way, and they capitalized on that heavily, and they pushed it so hard the last series turned in to unashamed dross even to the hardcore fan base.

You're going to see a lot less of these actors that have been shoved down our throats as "stars" and bar one or two, they'll disappear in to the B and C list over the coming years as the agents and managers won't put resources where they will not see a return. They know the actors involved were lucky to be part of a show that made bank but it wasn't because it was sterling performances or incredible art or thought provoking - it was because it was a product that successfully targeted an exploding group of people. The same people that are cool with playing several hours of video games and wait in line over night for new games. The same people that will be spoon fed 27 superhero movies and go see every single one in cinema and then buy the collectors edition blue ray box set.

And they're 30 or even 40 years old.

I would say though: Try to watch GoT. I'd genuinely like to hear what you make of it.

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Originally posted by Zoso Cat 5 = serious shiat, yo.

For real. Feeling sorry for those in FL and GA right now.

We mainly worry about earthquakes and fires here.