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Originally posted by Floorfiller you obviously think that america is wrong for 'policing' the world, but in circumstances such as the middle east when the conflict has gone on for decades if not centuries without resolution, then what is the fault in trying to end the blood shed? its not like the us is trying to take over the gaza strip or something. and don't say because we are friends with isreal that yes that is exactly what we want to do because that is crap...

The united states is "friends" with israel whether you like it or not. And dont take the word friend for its literal meaning... acknowledge the socio-economic backdrop involved.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King The united states is "friends" with israel whether you like it or not. And dont take the word friend for its literal meaning... acknowledge the socio-economic backdrop involved.

if israel is reeking in all these great benifits from being the US's friend, why dont the other arab neighbours aspire to be friendly as well?

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Originally posted by Izzy if israel is reeking in all these great benifits from being the US's friend, why dont the other arab neighbours aspire to be friendly as well?

Becuase the US doesnt want to be friends with them. And Israel is a kiss ass.. unlike the arabs.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Becuase the US doesnt want to be friends with them.

why wouldnt the US want to be the arabs friend? really why? i mean one good reason to be friendly is that the arabs possess oil, with is like heroin in the american industry's vien.

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And Israel is a kiss ass.. unlike the arabs.

im suggesting maybe they should, they'll BOTH benifit from it

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Originally posted by Izzy why wouldnt the US want to be the arabs friend? really why? i mean one good reason to be friendly is that the arabs possess oil, with is like heroin in the american industry's vien. im suggesting maybe they should, they'll BOTH benifit from it

I see it this way. Israel and America are the big bullies in the playground... they are mean and demanding and beat up anyone that doesnt listen to them. America is the bigger bully and isael is the smaller one.. being taught by the US how to strategically fight... even giving them a bat and a knife to do it. They benefit each other by learning how to bully and help each other bully the rest of the kids.

Nobody likes the bullies.

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you obviously think that america is wrong for 'policing' the world, but in circumstances such as the middle east when the conflict has gone on for decades if not centuries without resolution, then what is the fault in trying to end the blood shed? its not like the us is trying to take over the gaza strip or something. and don't say because we are friends with isreal that yes that is exactly what we want to do because that is crap...

This conflict has been going on since industry started to rely on oil. The US's only goal is not trying to bring peace and democracy to Iraq, nor to end the bloodshed. It is there to take over, but not territory, it is there to take the oil. Taking territory in global politics is an outdated idea, because with territorry come people of which you have to take care of.

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Becuase the US doesnt want to be friends with them. And Israel is a kiss ass.. unlike the arabs.

It is necesarry for Israel to support US, because it is surrounded by many hostile arab states. To do otherwise would lead Israel into it's downfall. America is therefore using Israel as it's base in the region

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im suggesting maybe they should, they'll BOTH benifit from it

Some arab states are on good terms with US, mainly Saudi Arabia. Those which tried to be independent are now screwed up and are not friendly.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike 2) State executions, including executions for crimes committed as a minor, and for the fact that the system is grossly racist.

haha, found this while surfing and this is the closest i could relate it to.... anyways nice to hear iran is coming along
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...s_the_stone_age

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granted there are economic reasons for who our friends are, but further then that i think we are isreal's friends because of the result of ww2...we helped cause the problem so by changing sides it would be like acknowledging a mistake. besides the oil isn't in isreal...the oil is in other areas like azerbaijan and other arabian countries.

why doesn't the us wants to be friends with arabs or vice-versa ? look at the hordes of zionists working in the us press, hollywood and politics... any of you seen any movies portraying badly israelis beating the crap out of a palestinian?? but what you'll see is wanna be arabic rambos running all over with ak47 trying to wreak havoc before getting killed by the good american and all this while having a jewish director making the movie.

bleh.

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the oil is in other areas like azerbaijan and other arabian countries.

But the presence of Israel in the region, together with american support for the extremist groups leads to instabilitiy in the whole region, and makes governments of those countries agree to nonfavorable trade treaties with US in exchange for the US military/intelligence support.

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Originally posted by ahlamalek why doesn't the us wants to be friends with arabs or vice-versa ? look at the hordes of zionists working in the us press, hollywood and politics... any of you seen any movies portraying badly israelis beating the crap out of a palestinian?? but what you'll see is wanna be arabic rambos running all over with ak47 trying to wreak havoc before getting killed by the good american and all this while having a jewish director making the movie. bleh.

Eh...good ol' jealousy. I do not think that the jews in general have the justify their own success. So, they "control" a great part of media after having established huge film studios/ press agencies/newspapers/tv-chans.. I dont see a problem with it. I wouldnt have cared if Chinese or Irish immigrantes had done this instead. What's your definition of "zionist" btw ? And..could u name some of those jewish propaganda movies where Arabs are shown as evil mosnters ?

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Originally posted by ahlamalek why doesn't the us wants to be friends with arabs or vice-versa ? look at the hordes of zionists working in the us press, hollywood and politics... any of you seen any movies portraying badly israelis beating the crap out of a palestinian?? but what you'll see is wanna be arabic rambos running all over with ak47 trying to wreak havoc before getting killed by the good american and all this while having a jewish director making the movie. bleh.

looks like someone is a fan of the elders of zion...one of the world's biggest propoganda publications. i don't know if you've read this book or not, but it sounds to me like if nothing else you've probably heard the image portrayed in it. basically for those of you that haven't...its about how jews are secretly planning to take over the world. the most interesting part of jewish history, something that is now held against them, is the fact that in the medieval ages, jews weren't allowed to hold regular respected positions in society because they were considered inferior to christians so they were forced to take jobs as money lenders because that was something that was not allowed for christians because they were not allowed to collect interest. so really one of the biggest stereo types in the world today is really the result of our own doing.