it was a topical anastetic..

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Originally posted by White_Raven360 How are you supposed to ask a six-week old

its not done at six weeks...its done in the hospital after birth. or the day after...

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Originally posted by White_Raven360 How are you supposed to ask a six-week old whether they want a circumcision or not!? Lol. If it's done when they're old enough to decide, they'd have to go through all that discomfort. Since I winced at that sentence about likening it to having the clitoris rubbing on the clothes all the time... FUCK OW.

It's hard to say how it affects them initially as well...there's always great debate about whether or not stuff done to kids when they're newborn is remembered or not. It's hard to say, really. I've seen evidence pointing both ways...

I think we'll eventually push beyond this as a society, but it's been pretty well established as a tradition and it's stubborn to change.

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

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Originally posted by Sugarbean its not done at six weeks...its done in the hospital after birth. or the day after...

Well, whatever. How are you supposed to ask a baby if it wants a circumcision?

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Originally posted by White_Raven360 Well, whatever. How are you supposed to ask a baby if it wants a circumcision?

Exactly. You can't. That's why babies shouldn't be forced to undergo any irreversible physical procedures. It is just as uncomfortable for a baby as it is for a full-grown man. Only difference is a man knows what he's going in for and can choose whether to do it or not. A baby can't. While circumcision under anaesthesia is not painful, it does become highly uncomfortable after the anaesthetic wears of and the glans begins to rub against the baby's diapers etc. as he moves around. Apart from religious reasons, which no-one can really argue against, I can think of little justification for forcing a child to undergo this unnecessary procedure.

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Originally posted by SgtFoo For the non jews, probably done because of cleanliness reasons or jsut family traditions....meh. But as for the jewish religion.... There once was a prophet in the desert with Moses. I'm not sure who told him or why (ask a rabbi)(heheh that rhymed) but he was told to cut off his foreskin. All those of his children and tribe thereon did the same I believe. By the way, he was an old man at the time of the cutting, so he was surely in dying pain. OUCH!!!!!!!! But yea..apparently most girls like it better cut.

that . . . . and also because god told him to do it to his children because it was the ultimate way of identifying true followers of their god.

i think all jews and most catholics do this. . . .

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i remember when i learned about circumcisions :0

it wasn't in school, from friends or parents

it was when Al Bundy got on on Married With Children, wanted one ever since

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Both Jews and Muslims practice circumcisions.... as part of religous requirments.... and some christians are also required....

Many other ppl do it too....out of tradition and choice...
there are some obvious pro's like cleanliness and some con's like risks of a poorly done circumcision.....
some parents find it inhumane!..... and find it uneccessary for their kid to go thru the pain (that he won't even remember!)....

Regardless....
There are no significant advantages/disadvantages to favor one side over the other.... so....it really doesn't matter!

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Here's a recent ABC article about female circumcision if you're interested:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/worl.../fgm030312.html

Parts of it make me shudder.

imo it has nothing to do with cleanliness, unless you are lazy and dirty at the same time

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