@jad: Didn't you say you were done posting in this thread? Reminds me a lot of the OP...

Funny, one disappeared the other showed up - yay propaganda.

Over a 1000 people are dead...what the fuck is ur problem??? Just cause u guys went through a lot of heartache doesn't mean u can do the same thing to others. I'm sooo fucking sick of this. Don't make it look like Israel's the victim here. If me, my family, and previous generations were treated like that, I'd gladly fight for our freedom and safety by ALL MEANS NECESSARY!!!!

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Originally posted by T_ALI Over a 1000 people are dead...what the fuck is ur problem??? Just cause u guys went through a lot of heartache doesn't mean u can do the same thing to others. I'm sooo fucking sick of this. Don't make it look like Israel's the victim here. If me, my family, and previous generations were treated like that, I'd gladly fight for our freedom and safety by ALL MEANS NECESSARY!!!!

What are you on about and why are you showing this for the millionth time?

The fact that its not propaganda, its real and that u need to open ur fucking mind.


I'll ask u the same thing I asked Tatgirl (who still hasn't answered me btw)

Do u think that the Palestinians will forgive the Israeli government/military after all they've done and just go on living their lives?

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Originally posted by T_ALI The fact that its not propaganda, its real and that u need to open ur fucking mind. I'll ask u the same thing I asked Tatgirl (who still hasn't answered me btw) Do u think that the Palestinians will forgive the Israeli government/military after all they've done and just go on living their lives?

do you even know what propaganda is?

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Ofcourse I do!!! What I meant is pay attention, don't just brush it off as its of no significance thinking Israel did no wrong.

I wouldn't be so emotionally heated with this but this issue hits too close to home.

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Originally posted by T_ALI Do u think that the Palestinians will forgive the Israeli government/military after all they've done and just go on living their lives?

No, but they should.

Every time they "fight for their freedom" Israel kills a few thousand of them and locks down the border. Not exactly what I would call "achieving your goals".

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Why? If I go and kill someone in your family, would you forgive me?

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Originally posted by T_ALI Ofcourse I do!!! What I meant is pay attention, don't just brush it off as its of no significance thinking Israel did no wrong. I wouldn't be so emotionally heated with this but this issue hits too close to home.

I don't think I once claimed or even alluded to such a thing. I might be more pro-Israel than pro-Palestinian - in fact I certainly am, but I think you downplay the Israeli side at LEAST as much as I do the Palestinian side (and I've actually said several times I far from agree with everything Israel does).

That said, I think you look at numbers more than you look at who/what is contained in those numbers. I'd argue a large majority aren't 'innocent', and in some of the cases that they are, they're used as tools of war by their radical leadership.

I'll second you not really understanding what propaganda is if you're still saying the same thing though.

To answer your question:

No, I don't think Palestinians will just sit quietly. To be fair, I could ask you the same question about people in Sderot - only the majority will on the Israeli side.

Regardless, they certainly should sit quietly. The very fact that "more of their land" is gone is because they tried to kill off the Israeli settlement as a result of spurring from the surrounding Arab nations and lost out. They should be mad with those nations and actually learn from their mistakes - maybe that way people will ACTUALLY live in some sort of peace - or at least quiet.

Edit: Just to note, by your silly 'logic', natives should be trying to murder modern North Americans and Europeans. (And I don't think that's an accurate comparison to this situation either because we'll again have a really stupid endless argument about "who started it").

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Originally posted by T_ALI Why? If I go and kill someone in your family, would you forgive me?

I can't say that I would because I don't know how I would handle someone killing my family. But I CAN say that I wouldn't retaliate by killing you or your family. That would invite more retaliation my way and end up in this exact, never-ending cycle of violence and retribution. That is not a good thing.

There's a lot of hate and anger on both sides, and neither is willing to let go of past crimes committed, but for the better future of the innocent lives on both sides, they have to forgive and move forward.

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Israel should consider the same thing since they've retalliated numerous times without even considering your solution of "forgive and forget".

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As of January 17, 2009, 13 Israelis (including 3 civilians) and 1,210 Palestinians are estimated to have been killed in this conflict. The Palestinian fatalities include 410 children and 85 women.[91]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E...93Gaza_conflict


The situation in Sderot was totally un-called for but that still doesn't excuse what Israel has done and is doing.

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Originally posted by T_ALI Israel should consider the same thing since they've retalliated numerous times without even considering your solution of "forgive and forget". As of January 17, 2009, 13 Israelis (including 3 civilians) and 1,210 Palestinians are estimated to have been killed in this conflict. The Palestinian fatalities include 410 children and 85 women.[91] Source: Wikkipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E...93Gaza_conflict The situation in Sderot was totally un-called for but that still doesn't excuse what Israel has done and is doing.

Again, following your logic, the people in Sderot should have full right to retaliation because "you wouldn't expect them to just sit quietly after something like that".

Outside of that, you still seem to be ignoring the fact that many of those women and children are used as tools/pawns of war. I know the numbers are unbalanced in casualties, but it's bound to happen when such radical and uncaring leadership is in power. Again, I'll refer you to the child-suicide-bomber situations to show you "how much they care about the children". I'm not calling anyone innocent, but it certainly not as black and white as you're making it seem.