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Originally posted by T_ALI Israel should consider the same thing since they've retalliated numerous times without even considering your solution of "forgive and forget".

I agree.

So then if neither side is capable of forgiving and moving forward, why do you place the onus on Israel alone? Or am I misunderstanding you?

Bottom line is, SOMEONE has to turn the other cheek for this to be brought to a final close, and I see no evidence of that happening.

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no matter how jusitfy it, the actions of the Israeli government/military are that of a fucking scumbag. Hamas is to blame as well but Israel went too far.

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Originally posted by Spam I agree. So then if neither side is capable of forgiving and moving forward, why do you place the onus on Israel alone? Or am I misunderstanding you? Bottom line is, SOMEONE has to turn the other cheek for this to be brought to a final close, and I see no evidence of that happening.

You're absolutely right except this conflict will never end since it is perpetually being fueled by hatred and vengeance from both sides.

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Originally posted by T_ALI You're absolutely right except this conflict will never end since it is perpetually being fueled by hatred and vengeance from both sides.

WE HAVE AGREEMENT!

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Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

I can't stay silent when people have such a disillusioned view of what's going on in Palestine. Some of the things I read after my so called 'last post' jsut shocked me. I don't want any of these poor views to rub off on others. Shade.. spam.. it's just funny to see that you guys can't even answer the questions you're asked by other TAs clearly. You either bring up a smaller and more irrelevant issue in the question, or you start making useless comparisons... I mean you're comparing Sderot - occupied land in which there is relative minimal damage- leading to 4 deaths and a bunch of crying (mostly) immigrant settlers - to Gaza in which the NATIVEs of the land are being massacred. Come on.. don't bullshit yourself.. the people of Sderot are living in relative luxury in comparison to Gazans.. as they have been throughout the history of Israel. Please give us some proper facts. You're most definitely entitled to your opinions but back them up with facts. Maybe you can't use many facts as they don't work to your advantage..

I agree with that statement too ^^.

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Originally posted by jad I can't stay silent when people have such a disillusioned view of what's going on in Palestine. Some of the things I read after my so called 'last post' jsut shocked me. I don't want any of these poor views to rub off on others. Shade.. spam.. it's just funny to see that you guys can't even answer the questions you're asked by other TAs clearly. You either bring up a smaller and more irrelevant issue in the question, or you start making useless comparisons... I mean you're comparing Sderot - occupied land in which there is relative minimal damage- leading to 4 deaths and a bunch of crying (mostly) immigrant settlers - to Gaza in which the NATIVEs of the land are being massacred. Come on.. don't bullshit yourself.. the people of Sderot are living in relative luxury in comparison to Gazans.. as they have been throughout the history of Israel. Please give us some proper facts. You're most definitely entitled to your opinions but back them up with facts. Maybe you can't use many facts as they don't work to your advantage.. I agree with that statement too ^^.

Ur right but some people are just too set in their views and are never going to change.

I feel your pain but just agree to disagree and let it go. Its pretty useless since this isn't going anywhere and TRANCEADDICT isn't going to solve anything or contribute anything to the situation.



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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced do you even know what propaganda is?

i think in your opinion propaganda is anything that is pro palestinian..we can post articles..videos..web pages..reports..speeches...studies..stats...etc..from many different sources and people.....and you will label them as propaganda...

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Originally posted by gummybear i think in your opinion propaganda is anything that is pro palestinian..we can post articles..videos..web pages..reports..speeches...studies..stats...etc..from many different sources and people.....and you will label them as propaganda...

Well these people here most of them are ignorant and take everything for granted some of them saying they wouldnt even do anything if there families got killed "hello" easier said then done,dont tell me stuff that look good in books tell me stuff based on reality.Gummy these people have no counter argument most of the videos posted here are done by BBC and other sources non arabic or non muslim sources yet they call it biased well they can keep singing that song I dont give a shit about what they think of that its not being posted here for them but for the other's who have a neutral stance on the topic to see what these people do in the first place that leads to hate,anger from the palestine and gaza side to fire rockets onto them.

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Originally posted by UmmiE Well these people here most of them are ignorant and take everything for granted some of them saying they wouldnt even do anything if there families got killed "hello" easier said then done,dont tell me stuff that look good in books tell me stuff based on reality.Gummy these people have no counter argument most of the videos posted here are done by BBC and other sources non arabic or non muslim sources yet they call it biased well they can keep singing that song I dont give a shit about what they think of that its not being posted here for them but for the other's who have a neutral stance on the topic to see what these people do in the first place that leads to hate,anger from the palestine and gaza side to fire rockets onto them.

i hear ya bud..seriously i do..and ya it's frustrating because to us it's so clear..the thing is, some of the people in this thread will never, ever admit that you are right..or that they are wrong..ever....that's cuz they are not seeking the truth or facts..they are supporting a cause/religion/agenda...etc....

just know that there are millions of people in this world that do see it and realize what is going on...and i know that your probably hurting for the people of gaza, as a lot of us in this thread are..i can not imagine the horrors they face...and sometimes when i'm sitting in my living room i think, fuck imagine if a bomb just dropped on this house right now..and for a few seconds i am filled with absolute horror...those are moments when i feel the saddest....

just ignore the losers who are obviously seriously biased..i laugh at people that can't see truth, after it has been placed in front of them over and over again..it's actually really sad and comical at the same time...like those people that argue george bush was a good president...lol...you just gotta look at them, shake your head and, walk away..they're not operating at the same level of consciousness...

Last edited by gummybear on Jan-19-2009 at 01:31

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Those are american soldiers u moron.