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GoSpeedGo!
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory

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Been a little while since I've read any weapons-grade critical theory, the endless references to Lacan and Hegel and Althusser are testing my memory.



I just finished First As Tragedy, Then As Farce, and I came to the conclusion that I enjoy listening to/watching the guy more than reading him. I guess it seems counter-intuitive, but I feel like I understand his ideas better that way. I even learned to love his awful accent, ticks and his overall restlessness.

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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
I just finished First As Tragedy, Then As Farce, and I came to the conclusion that I enjoy listening to/watching the guy more than reading him. I guess it seems counter-intuitive, but I feel like I understand his ideas better that way. I even learned to love his awful accent, ticks and his overall restlessness.

Zizek live is bloody amazing!

And, in my experience, people tend to be clearer in spoken language than in written prose. I suspect it's got something to do with our memory buffer, but I've got nothing substatial to back these claims up.


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GoSpeedGo!
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Zizek live is bloody amazing!


I love how it's not just what he says, but also how he says that, that makes people uncomfortable. I guess I have a weak spot for such characters.

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And, in my experience, people tend to be clearer in spoken language than in written prose.


I always assumed the opposite. For me, it's definitely easier to get my thoughts across in writing since I have more time to correctly formulate them etc. I thought this was pretty much universal.

In Žižek's case, however, I think that the language barrier actually prevents him from rambling too much and given the limited time he usually has in his lectures, he can't present his ideas in such a longwinded fashion like in the books/articles. This makes it easier to understand it even for someone who is not familiar w/ Hegel or Lacan.

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SYSTEM-J
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He certainly loves to ramble in this book.


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That's also true in a sense, GSG: It's easier to structure your thoughts on paper. But I tend to think that, precisely because of that, you can go overboard and write dense texts with more ease.

As a linguist, all I can say is that there are structures there are more common in literate societies, but this could lead the argument both ways. Oh well, I think this debate isn't going to derail the thread
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He certainly loves to ramble.

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GoSpeedGo!
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Žižek's new book on Hegel is supposed to have over 1000 pages, I'm not sure who's going to read that.

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SYSTEM-J
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I specified because I've never read any of his other books in full, only excerpts. He's quite a good writer to quote on a specific point. The trouble is he seems very unwilling to actually state the thrust of his argument if he can take the scenic route through endless examples and references.


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Sounds like fucking Polyani. So sick of reading Personal Knowledge.


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LAdazeNYnights
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So this girl that I've been seeing just calls me, drunk. The conversation somehow turns to what she's been reading recently:
"I've been reading this amazing book lately."
"Oh god. Don't tell me it's Fifty Shades of Grey"
"How did you know!?"
"You should keep that shit to yourself!"
"Why! It's so good! The writing is great and it's so captivating."
At this point I'm thinking that I may not be particularly interested in this girl anymore, but then she starts asking how I feel about our sex. She acts really coy and then eventually blurts out that she wants me to be rougher with her: "I want to be dominated"

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Meat187
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I wanted to say how utterly retarded and terrible that book is, but considering how your story turned out I find it hard to make that point.


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LAdazeNYnights
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Yeah man, she's on her way over.
I'm putting on my cloak and wizards hat.

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I'm putting on my cloak and wizards hat.


Fail. Let me fix that for you:

quote:
Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
I'm putting on my collar and leather harness.


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