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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC EDIT: Actually debate is good. And questioning the government is every citizen's duty. It's a freedom our Armed Forces have preserved for us and one of the reasons I chose to serve this great nation. We can agree to disagree and sorry for letting my temper get the best of me. We're Americans and that's good enough for me. We want peave and prosperity for the world, we just have different views on how to make it come about.

Fine, no problem. But provacations and disrespect should be avoided in civil discourse though .

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC You're weird dude. Get a grip on reality.

When the facts are against you, argue the law. When the law is against you, argue the facts. When both the facts and the law are against you, call the other person names! - Michael Rivero whatreallyhappened.com

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I like thou you didn't answer and quote this: Iraq, hmmm. Bush lied? Well let's see, truth is the CIA like the U.n., China, Russia, Britain, France, you name it, all their intelligence services believed he had WMDs. Bush didn't know for a fact that they 'didn't' and then tell us he did know for a fact Iraq had WMDs. Everyone believed Saddam did and after 8 years someone had to do something. Better to not take the chance than go another eight years writing stupid UN Resoultions over & over.

The need for intelligence (i.e. CIA) is to find the facts. But if those facts are not found then the only other reason to have intelligence is to make lies. It can't get simpler than that.

If you believe that there still are wmds then go to the recruiter and tell him you want to re-up. Trying to brainwash me into thinking there are still any left is irresponsible to say the least. After all, the hunt for those wmd's are OFFICIALLY over. But somehow I'm reminded of those Japanese in the south Pacific that didn't know WWII was over.

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You keep hanging onto there were no WMDs and Bush knew it. Our own CIA wasn't positive and that's where he got his intel not his own secret something. And the entire world believed it. Saddam had 8 years and the ultimatum date to back down and claim he had nothing and prove it. You should focus your anger at him not someone else.

Rehashing the same thing, keep hanging on to there being any wmd's in Iraq.

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That bastard could have nipped this in the butt but your hatred of Bush has blinded you and your attitude... Well there's no point in debating a delusional person so have a good one.....

Hatred of Bush? What have you've been near DU for too long? I don't hate anybody. They're all equally selfish. Bush, Kerry and whoever. What's at stake here is human life. If you want to go find those "crap" wmd's then be my guest. I'm not the one who's brainwashed here.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC You guys are a lost cause, too ignorant and so engulfed by blind hatred for one man who you believe is responsible for all the evils in the world. What you need to do is actually see the world not stare at a computer screen and find weird videos on youtube.

If my answers scare you then stop asking scary questions. In other words you can't argue politics and claim people have hatred. It's bad enough you're brainwashed into wearing a silly haircut.

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Last edited by ogvh5150 on Dec-11-2006 at 20:04

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Rehashing the same thing, keep hanging on to there being any wmd's in Iraq.

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Iraq, hmmm. Bush lied? Well let's see, truth is the CIA like the U.n., China, Russia, Britain, France, you name it, all their intelligence services believed he had WMDs. Bush didn't know for a fact that they 'didn't' and then tell us he did know for a fact Iraq had WMDs. Everyone believed Saddam did and after 8 years someone had to do something. Better to not take the chance than go another eight years writing stupid UN Resoultions over & over.

You're still dodging the question ^. At the time everyone
in the world believed he had WMDs, and Bush didn't know
for a fact and purposely lied. Not saying 'there being
any wmd's in Iraq'. Thou you already dismissed the Sarin
they found...

So your arguement fails. You keep going 'NO WMDs OMG,
and he knew it yadayadayad!'. Well every intelligence
agency in the world thought he did. You must think the
CIA is uber that it knows all and Bush knew for a fact
all WMD programs were verifiably dismantled according
to UN resolutions huh? Shish lol. You give the CIA too
much credit.

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Last edited by DevilDogUSMC on Dec-12-2006 at 04:39

dont bother devildog. there are certain people in the PDD that have a deep need to believe the 9/11 conspiracies. nothing you say will ever change that, anymore than saddam could convince the US he didn't have any WMDs.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC You're still dodging the question.

No, you're not bothering to read his responses. Several people have addressed this a million times in the last 3 years.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC At the time everyone in the world believed he had WMDs, and Bush didn't know for a fact and purposely lied.

That's the opposite of reality. Disproven over and over again, before the war even began.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC

Take this argument to these two threads of your choosing:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...528#post7102528

or

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=224487

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That's the ex-MI-5 whistle blower. Thanks for posting it.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

just posting two documents for any CTers that have a commitment to finding the truth and assessing all arguments. theyre long, but definitely not complicated.

thorough examination of WTC7

analysis of WTC1&2 collapse from a controlled demolition industry standpoint

edit: please read that second link shaolin and tell me what you think?

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Last edited by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-20-2006 at 10:44

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN analysis of WTC1&2 collapse from a controlled demolition industry standpoint

Wow, nice article there! I'm grateful that you have taken responsibility to defend common sense and BASIC physics in this particular subject! Every time you post, it's a breath of fresh air in this stagnant cesspool of conspiracies based on incompetent researchers and "Experts".

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Wow, nice article there! I'm grateful that you have taken responsibility to defend common sense and BASIC physics in this particular subject! Every time you post, it's a breath of fresh air in this stagnant cesspool of conspiracies based on incompetent researchers and "Experts".

hahaha, dont let shaolin hear you say that coz he knows my physics is about as reliable as alex jones' but i agree, the articles are very well written and pretty easy to grasp for the most part.

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