Conspiracy theorists, the same people who don't believe we landed on the moon, and probably wouldnt believe they were alive if they didn't see themselves in front of the mirror every morning, will show you overwhelmingly biased and misleading evidence.

This isn't to say that you shouldn't ask questions. I don't believe in always taking to heart the first explanation of such serious events as 9/11.

But come'on...put the bong down and lose some of that paranoia.

Pay especially close attention to the quotes of the firemen in the link below, as this brilliantly illustrates my point of biased, misleading media and third party coverage in order to sway public opinion.

http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

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Originally posted by xstalkrx Conspiracy theorists, the same people who don't believe we landed on the moon, and probably wouldnt believe they were alive if they didn't see themselves in front of the mirror every morning, will show you overwhelmingly biased and misleading evidence. This isn't to say that you shouldn't ask questions. I don't believe in always taking to heart the first explanation of such serious events as 9/11. But come'on...put the bong down and lose some of that paranoia. Pay especially close attention to the quotes of the firemen in the link below, as this brilliantly illustrates my point of biased, misleading media and third party coverage in order to sway public opinion. http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

Explain me this then, please:

On 7/7 attacks as in on 9/11 attacks, government agencies were doing terrorist simulation attacks on the subway while the events then unfolded, all happening in ONE day at the SAME place at the SAME time!!! What are the odds of that happening??? The odds of that happening are one in a tretigillion, according to the video I've seen. And guess what - on 9/11 NORAD, which is supposed to protect American skies instead was doing terrorist drills, for the first time that year, and EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME and SAME PLACE terrorists attacked. Whoa, eh? Those terrorists hit the jackpot! For one and a half hours in 3 years the terrorists were literally told when and where to attack. Haha.

7-7 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5Jltzcimc

9/11 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNjLt3vVwg

Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic

Full radio transcript for the same 7/7 attacks by a guy who clearly identifies himself as former British intelligence agent now working for some shady security company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPafvtJ9GU


Good food-for-thought: Mi6 hiding terrorists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flypeg17ZsM

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Originally posted by xstalkrx Conspiracy theorists, the same people who don't believe we landed on the moon, and probably wouldnt believe they were alive if they didn't see themselves in front of the mirror every morning, will show you overwhelmingly biased and misleading evidence.

Do you believe in UFOs? Little green cow mutilating aliens? Global Warming/Cooling? Life on other worlds? The US money system still on the gold standard? The paranormal? Ghosts? God? Allah? Shiva? Satan?

Then don't try to bait an argument if you have nothing to argue about. After all, if you're gonna pigeonhole a whole group of people then don't throw stones in a glass house.

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This isn't to say that you shouldn't ask questions. I don't believe in always taking to heart the first explanation of such serious events as 9/11. But come'on...put the bong down and lose some of that paranoia.

When people have no facts they argue a lie. When they have no lies to argue they poke fun and name call.

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Pay especially close attention to the quotes of the firemen in the link below, as this brilliantly illustrates my point of biased, misleading media and third party coverage in order to sway public opinion. http://www.debunking911.com/index.html

For example, Steven Jones and Alex Jones (no relation) might be considered kooky or crazy but at least you can choose to talk to them (or not) unlike this guy who is a glorified troll:

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Q: Why do you hide your identity? A: It should be none of anyone's business who I am. If I'm right, the evidence will back me up. If I'm wrong the evidence will expose it the same as if you knew who I was.

Had anyone cared to read a think tanks report once in a frigging while they would find these two clues:

States, terrorists, and other disaffected groups will acquire weapons of mass destruction and mass disruption, and some will use them. Americans will likely die on American soil, possibly in large numbers.
NEW WORLD COMING:
AMERICAN SECURITY IN THE 21ST CENTURY
15th September, 1999


A transformation strategy that solely pursued capabilities for projecting force from the United States, for example, and sacrificed forward basing and presence, would be at odds with larger American policy goals and would trouble American allies.

Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.
Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century
A Report of
The Project for the New American Century
September 2000


But like you said they're just conspiracy theories.

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Anyone see that picture take from a Satallite of the Pentagon the day before 9-11?

I believe it was actually on Google Earth. It shows a straight chalk line on the ground outside the Pentagon, at the exact spot and angle where they claim the plane hit it 24 hours later.

WTF were they doing tracing a chalk path across the Pentagon lawn?

And wasn't it convenient than Rumsfeld's office was on the exact opposite side of where the "impact" took place?

hmmmm

Google got it's seed money from the CIA. It's no wonder that it took off like it did.

People don't realize it, but their use of illicit drugs indirectly finances Google which in turn tells the government just what sites you've been visiting using a NSA approved operating system.

Don't forget those annoying little shop Google ads as well.

Move along people, go back in your homes. Nothing to see.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Google got it's seed money from the CIA. It's no wonder that it took off like it did. People don't realize it, but their use of illicit drugs indirectly finances Google which in turn tells the government just what sites you've been visiting using a NSA approved operating system. Don't forget those annoying little shop Google ads as well. Move along people, go back in your homes. Nothing to see.

Dam ... nice links!

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How can most of the world think the US adminstration is horrible and incompitent but in some way genius enough to pull off 9/11?

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Anyone see that picture take from a Satallite of the Pentagon the day before 9-11? I believe it was actually on Google Earth. It shows a straight chalk line on the ground outside the Pentagon, at the exact spot and angle where they claim the plane hit it 24 hours later. WTF were they doing tracing a chalk path across the Pentagon lawn? And wasn't it convenient than Rumsfeld's office was on the exact opposite side of where the "impact" took place? hmmmm

A chalk line isn't going to help you hit a building, just think about it.

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You guys are hilarious

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Google got it's seed money from the CIA. It's no wonder that it took off like it did. People don't realize it, but their use of illicit drugs indirectly finances Google which in turn tells the government just what sites you've been visiting using a NSA approved operating system. Don't forget those annoying little shop Google ads as well. Move along people, go back in your homes. Nothing to see.

do you even read the links you post? it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off". and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s? you are retarded, sir.

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Originally posted by Haunted do you even read the links you post? it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off". and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s? you are retarded, sir.

This is how easily its to debunk - just ignore the strong points, as in my post on "drills going on at the time of 9/11 andd 7/7 attacks", and pick on someone whose point is backed by less credible evidence. Basically that shows that if you dont want to believe in a "conspiracy", no matter how much evidence is given to you, people like that will easily dismiss it as fabrication UNLESS the government or their favourite media tell them otherwise. However, people fail to note that when you have an argument against the government, that same government does not literally give out and approve any information that will make itself look like a criminal, and most people like you dismiss anything thats not approved by government or some government-trained agency.

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Originally posted by Haunted do you even read the links you post?

The relevant question is; did you? Or did you just press reply to argue nothing but to get a flame going?

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it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off".

Not like people actually give a fugg about Alex Jones; there was an ex-CIA agents' claim that Google got it's seed money from the CIA aka the Cocaine Importing Agency. You would have known this if you actually clicked the link from the previous post.

If you cared to even know a little bit of history you would have realized pretty much wherever spooks are there has been some sort of drug trade. Gary Webb picked up on this. But about the only drug dealers you probably know are black, latino or some other minority/ethnic origin but never guys in suits and ties.

And if you knew your internet history you would have known that it was a military project called DARPAnet before it.

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and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s?

What makes you think they've stopped dealing drugs?

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you are retarded, sir.

You're arguing you're not gay in a gay bar.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Dam ... nice links!

Thanks but thank the guy behind the bbcodextra extension for firefox. And the authors of course. Assuming at least you read some of those links.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium This is how easily its to debunk - just ignore the strong points, as in my post on "drills going on at the time of 9/11 andd 7/7 attacks", and pick on someone whose point is backed by less credible evidence. Basically that shows that if you dont want to believe in a "conspiracy", no matter how much evidence is given to you, people like that will easily dismiss it as fabrication UNLESS the government or their favourite media tell them otherwise. However, people fail to note that when you have an argument against the government, that same government does not literally give out and approve any information that will make itself look like a criminal, and most people like you dismiss anything thats not approved by government or some government-trained agency.

+1

Sheeple my dear friend sheeple:


"I knew Osama did it, I just knew it."

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