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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

On another note, there is a new entry for funniest political video of this election year:



Though I am still partial to this one:



I dunno, it's a toss-up.


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iammesol
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Location: Atlanta, USA

luke obama ftw

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Lilith
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I like the Westminster system, it tends not to have this kind of media clogging crap when electing a party leader to represent them.

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Ang ' ela_ie
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I was walking past a TV today at school and CNN was on (of course - theres nothing else on public televisions in Atlanta) and they were talking about how people have been attacking Michelle Obama, and there was a clip of Barack talking about how it's below the belt to engage in "that kind of politics." Since I dont really follow the mass media election coverage I had no idea what they were talking about. What were they talking about? What did who say about Michelle Obama?


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Clovis
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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
I was walking past a TV today at school and CNN was on (of course - theres nothing else on public televisions in Atlanta) and they were talking about how people have been attacking Michelle Obama, and there was a clip of Barack talking about how it's below the belt to engage in "that kind of politics." Since I dont really follow the mass media election coverage I had no idea what they were talking about. What were they talking about? What did who say about Michelle Obama?



Probably something about how she talks too much and has far more brain power than necessary to be first lady.


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jonze
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Though I am still partial to this one:



I dunno, it's a toss-up.




the basketball clip puts this one over the top


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quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
I like the Westminster system, it tends not to have this kind of media clogging crap when electing a party leader to represent them.


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DJ Eco
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Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I dunno, it's a toss-up.



That first one's hilarious lol... The second one's just annoying.


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DJ Eco
in yo mouf



Registered: May 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
I was walking past a TV today at school and CNN was on (of course - theres nothing else on public televisions in Atlanta) and they were talking about how people have been attacking Michelle Obama, and there was a clip of Barack talking about how it's below the belt to engage in "that kind of politics." Since I dont really follow the mass media election coverage I had no idea what they were talking about. What were they talking about? What did who say about Michelle Obama?




I think maybe people were talking about some of the questionable things she's said in the past. Don't know what or who in particular but it could be anything from her "first time proud to be an American" thing to her Princeton thesis to the eventual damaging video of her at Church...

To be honest, I could care less since she's First Lady (before anyone accuses me of making this an issue), just pointing out what may have been said, although I don't see how they didn't see this coming (or more importantly, where it's about to go when he gets the nomination).


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RJT
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Straws, she's grasping at them: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2008052...pVdzToGwH.s0NUE

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Hillary Clinton called sexist attacks on her campaign "deeply offensive" Tuesday, as female supporters sprang to her defense, saying she speaks for all women and should stay in the Democratic race to the bitter end.

In what appear to be the waning days of her historic White House bid, the former first lady spoke out for the first time about what her supporters have long condemned, including derisive T-shirts, novelty items and commentary focusing on her gender.

"It's been deeply offensive to millions of women," Clinton said told The Washington Post in an interview, in which she pinned blame primarily on tolerant attitudes in the media.

"I believe this campaign has been a groundbreaker in a lot of ways. But it certainly has been challenging given some of the attitudes in the press," Clinton said of the contest that will crown either a black or a female presidential nominee for the first time in history.

Clinton said she did not believe the campaign had been tainted by racism, adding that racism is apparently less tolerated in US society than sexism.

"There should be equal treatment of the sexism and the racism when it raises its ugly head," she said.

"It does seem as though the press at least is not as bothered by the incredible vitriol that has been engendered by the comments by people who are nothing but misogynists."

Female supporters of Hillary Clinton have sprung to her defense, insisting she should stay in the Democratic primary race to the end, June 3.

"Not so fast," read a full page ad in The New York Times Tuesday, amid calls for Clinton to bow out sooner to help unify the party after a divisive contest between Clinton and Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

"Hillary's voice is OUR voice, and she's speaking for all of us," said the ad, purchased by a group not affiliated with the Clinton campaign called WomenCount.

"We want Hillary to stay in this race until every vote is cast, every vote is counted, and we know that our voices are heard."

Obama meanwhile inched closer to claiming the right to be the party's standard bearer in November, with voting in Kentucky and Oregon Tuesday likely to give him a majority of pledged delegates, according to aides.

"A clear majority of elected delegates will send an unmistakable message -- the people have spoken, and they are ready for change," Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe said in a fundraising email Monday.

Geraldine Ferraro, who as the Democratic party's vice presidential nominee in 1984 is the only woman on a major US presidential ticket to date, said sexism had been "rampant" in the presidential primary campaign.

Asked if the former first lady could blame her loss on gender, Ferraro said, "She might, but I certainly will and other people involved in watching the campaign will."

"Latent sexism has been around this country for a long time. In this campaign it was rampant," Ferraro said on NBC's Today show.

"There is a real difference in this country. It is not okay to be racist. It is just not. It is almost acceptable to be sexist," Ferraro said as the Democrats fielded the historic choice of the first female or the first black presidential nominee.

Ferraro recalled a Clinton rally in New Hampshire when someone in the audience held up a sign saying "Iron my shirt."

"Suppose somebody at that Barack Obama rally said 'Shine my shoes.' The person would have been swamped by the media saying, what, are you a racist? Hillary barely saw press on this. It is not only the Obama campaign. It is how the press has handled this."

Ferraro stirred up a firestorm in March with comments attributing Obama's stunning rise in US politics to his race.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," Ferraro told a California newspaper. She resigned from Clinton's campaign finance committee shortly after.


I do, however, think she's probably right about sexism being tolerated more than racism, but by the same token - if she didn't embody every single negative stereotype there are for women, she probably wouldn't have to deal with as much of it.

The funniest part of it all is I've heard at least two women refer to Hilary as a "fucking bitch" and made it clear they thought her campaigning on any kind of "feminist" banner would unravel and prove to be so shallow so quickly that she'd really have to be on her last legs to play the sexist issue fully.

And here we are. I'm really looking forward to seeing her speech tonight where she'll inevitably try to spin the two meaningless primaries occurring today in her favor.

I'm bracing myself for something like "Two more primaries down, and it's ON TO THE WHITEHOUSE!" to come out of her mouth only to be followed by rousing applause from an audience still buying into the delusion.

Should make for great TV.


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Lebezniatnikov
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Location: DC

quote:
McCain: I Can Demagogue About Iran Because Public Is Ignorant
By Greg Sargent - May 20, 2008, 2:15PM

Okay, that's not quite what he said, but pretty darn close.

Time magazine's Joe Klein points us to a YouTube of him grilling John McCain yesterday about his attacks on Barack Obama over Iran.

McCain has been blasting Obama for his willingness to meet with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But in questioning McCain yesterday, Klein pointed out: "According to most diplomatic experts, the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, is the guy who's in charge of Iranian foreign policy, and also in charge of the nuclear program."

"Why do you always keep on talking about Ahmadinejad, since he doesn't have power in that realm?" Klein asked.

Check out McCain's response...



The key line comes at the very end, when McCain says: "I think if you asked any average American who the leader of Iran is, I think they'd know."

Translation: I know I can count on Americans thinking that Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran, so the reality doesn't matter a whit.

Seriously, it's either that or McCain genuinely believes what he said here. To state the obvious, neither is terribly confidence-inspiring...


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
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The smile he has when he's not speaking looks so forced.

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