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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, perhaps not. but if you did peruse the very short and easily understood paper, then you could say "the physics professor agrees with me" and i could say "the demolition experts agree with me" and then we could both agree to disagree

Alright dude, I'm downloading that pdf doc you pasted earlier. I'll read it just for you . But since I'm going ahead with that now, did you ever get around to watching Improbably Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Alright dude, I'm downloading that pdf doc you pasted earlier. I'll read it just for you . But since I'm going ahead with that now, did you ever get around to watching Improbably Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic?

possibly. i watched a whole bunch of stuff a while back. not too good with the memory, hehe. cant watch it now anyway coz i no longer have ADSL at home.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN possibly. i watched a whole bunch of stuff a while back. not too good with the memory, hehe. cant watch it now anyway coz i no longer have ADSL at home.

Alright, just finished. It's the most unconvings nonsense I've ever read on the subject. Sorry. I would have elaborate on that before, but like I said, I'm not fond of going in circles.

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 ordo ab chao

Hail the sacred chao!

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Alright, just finished. It's the most unconvings nonsense I've ever read on the subject. Sorry. I would have elaborate on that before, but like I said, I'm not fond of going in circles.

haha. how can you say THE expert in the field of demolition is unconvincing? i dont understand!

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Argumentum ad verecundiam. Ad hominems don't impress me eigther.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Ad hominems don't impress me either.

oh come now. you havent raised anything specific so what was i meant to do?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh come now. you havent raised anything specific so what was i meant to do?

Explain me this, in case you missed me posting this a million times:

On 7/7 attacks as in on 9/11 attacks, government agencies were doing terrorist simulation attacks on the subway while the events then unfolded, all happening in ONE day at the SAME place at the SAME time!!! What are the odds of that happening??? The odds of that happening are one in a tretigillion, according to the video I've seen. And guess what - on 9/11 NORAD, which is supposed to protect American skies instead was doing terrorist drills, for the first time that year, and EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME and SAME PLACE terrorists attacked. Whoa, eh? Those terrorists hit the jackpot! HOW DID THEY KNOW??? Only with government's involvement!

7-7 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5Jltzcimc

9/11 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNjLt3vVwg

Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic

Full radio transcript for the same 7/7 attacks by a guy who clearly identifies himself as former British intelligence agent now working for some shady security company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPafvtJ9GU

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Explain me this, in case you missed me posting this a million times: On 7/7 attacks as in on 9/11 attacks, government agencies were doing terrorist simulation attacks on the subway while the events then unfolded, all happening in ONE day at the SAME place at the SAME time!!! What are the odds of that happening??? The odds of that happening are one in a tretigillion, according to the video I've seen. And guess what - on 9/11 NORAD, which is supposed to protect American skies instead was doing terrorist drills, for the first time that year, and EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME and SAME PLACE terrorists attacked. Whoa, eh? Those terrorists hit the jackpot! HOW DID THEY KNOW??? Only with government's involvement! 7-7 attacks had drills going on at the same time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5Jltzcimc 9/11 attacks had drills going on at the same time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNjLt3vVwg Haha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic Full radio transcript for the same 7/7 attacks by a guy who clearly identifies himself as former British intelligence agent now working for some shady security company. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPafvtJ9GU

these issues have been examined and debunked time and time again. which you would know if you EVER read anything from the other side of the fence. but you dont; you just ignore everything like you did when i hammered you over the WTC7 building collapse. youre a paranoid conspiracy lover and i see no point in trying to reason with you.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN these issues have been examined and debunked time and time again. which you would know if you EVER read anything from the other side of the fence. but you dont; you just ignore everything like you did when i hammered you over the WTC7 building collapse. youre a paranoid conspiracy lover and i see no point in trying to reason with you.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Argumentum ad verecundiam. Ad hominems don't impress me eigther.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Ignore the trolls bait ogvh5150 & Magnetonium. Don't feed the troll.

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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z It's the most unconvings nonsense I've ever read on the subject. Sorry. I would have elaborate on that before, but like I said, I'm not fond of going in circles.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Ad hominems don't impress me eigther.

now- the former comment didnt really leave me much room to comment, thus me resorting to the latter. if you mentioned anything of consequence perhaps i wouldnt have. i know youre not fond of going in circles but on the other hand i think the amount of faith youre willing to put into "your" experts (like non-expert steven jones) is extraordinary when compared to what those that contradict him. ie, i dont understand why you would take a physics professor's word about the nature of an explosion/collapse over those that set industry standards for explosives and demolitions.

as for attacking magnetonium, cant say i care. he's obsessively concerned with weird paranoid delusions and i mock him as such. im sorry if this makes me a bad person.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN these issues have been examined and debunked time and time again. which you would know if you EVER read anything from the other side of the fence. but you dont; you just ignore everything like you did when i hammered you over the WTC7 building collapse. youre a paranoid conspiracy lover and i see no point in trying to reason with you.

Unlike the demolition/collapse, which is debatable so I wont bother arguing, my points above mentioned are not debatable, they're acknowledged, on the record, FACTS. You cant DEBUNK that while terrorists attacked on 9/11 and 7/11, government agencies were doing terrorist drills precisely at the same time. Are you saying that was a lie?

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